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From: Tom Goddard <goddard@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Re: Glasses-free Samsung Odyssey 3D Monitor support
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 13:21:09 -0400
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Cc: Andre Clemens Michaelis <michaelis@biochem.mpg.de>,
 chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu
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To: Greg Pintilie <gregdp@gmail.com>


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi A=
ndre,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; We discussed t=
he Samsung Odyssey 3D on the ChimeraX mailing list last month</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://mail.cgl.ucs=
f.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/thread/VWOX4EMKIGKFX=
YYENTYCVFJY4MM6KJ26/#62U574TFJVGLE44JJTSRVIUT3HMHESDN">https://mail.cgl.ucsf=
.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/thread/VWOX4EMKIGKFXY=
YENTYCVFJY4MM6KJ26/#62U574TFJVGLE44JJTSRVIUT3HMHESDN</a></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The display manual does not mention OpenXR, on=
ly side-by-side stereo.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/2025=
06/20250612182444761/BN81-27045C-00_WUG_G60SD_G61SD_G81SF_G90XF_NA_LATIN_ENG=
_250226.1.pdf">https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/202506/20250612=
182444761/BN81-27045C-00_WUG_G60SD_G61SD_G81SF_G90XF_NA_LATIN_ENG_250226.1.p=
df</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Chimerax does not su=
pport fullscreen side-by-side stereo so it won't work with this display. &nb=
sp;We might in the future add support.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp;Tom</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 22, 2025, a=
t 11:14=E2=80=AFAM, Greg Pintilie via ChimeraX-users &lt;chimerax-users@cgl.=
ucsf.edu&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
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br></div>Hi Andre,<div><br></div><div>I can pass some information since I=E2=
=80=99ve been looking into this with Tom Goddard a lot recently, not with th=
e Samsung monitor, but with two others that have the same technology:</div><=
div><br></div><div>Tom has the ChimeraX latest builds working with the "Sony=
 3D Spatial Reality Display=E2=80=9D monitors. You just have to connect the m=
onitor, run ChimeraX and then type =E2=80=9Cxr on=E2=80=9D in the command li=
ne.</div><div><br></div><div>We also tried the "Acer 3D SpatialLabs ViewPro 2=
7=E2=80=9D, but Tom found bugs in their openXR implementation, so the latest=
 ChimeraX is not working with this yet, but likely there will be a fix very s=
oon. Tom has a modified version of ChimeraX that works with this monitor, bu=
t it is not released yet.</div><div><br></div><div>You can google the above n=
ames, I would put links but they seem to vary by region. I am a huge fan of b=
oth of the above two monitors. The 3D effect is great, very useful for model=
ing and viewing complex models and 3D maps. Also super easy to run, compared=
 to previous technologies. There are still some quirks, like that you have t=
o interact with the 3D view on your main monitor, not on the 3D monitor dire=
ctly.</div><div><br></div><div>There are no tests yet of ChimeraX with the S=
amsung monitor, that I know of. It looks really nice, but I didn=E2=80=99t f=
ind any info on whether it supports openXR or not, which is what ChimerX is u=
sing. We had some discussion on this list recently about whether it=E2=80=99=
s worth using the SBS mode, which it apparently supports, but that mode has e=
ven more quirks, so would not encourage.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg P.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jun 21, 2025, at 11:54=E2=80=AFAM, Michaelis, Andr=
e Clemens via ChimeraX-users &lt;chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu&gt; wrote:</div=
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<div>Dear ChimeraX Team,</div>
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<div>I was wondering if you had experience with the glasses-free Samsung Ody=
ssey 3D monitor or know if ChimeraX is supporting it? Maybe you got already f=
eedback from some users, as this seems like the perfect solution to work wit=
h!</div>
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, 255, 255, 0);">Max-Planck Institute of Biochemistry<o:p></o:p></span></div=
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gba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dept. Proteomics and Signal Transduction<br>
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<span dir=3D"ltr">D-82152 Martinsried</span>/Munich<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style=3D=
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margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 2=
55, 0);">Phone:&nbsp;<span dir=3D"ltr">+49 89 8578 2213</span><br>
email:&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelis@biochem.mpg.de" title=3D"mailto:mich=
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