Subject: Re: [nmr_sparky] hello....slow spectra refreshing
From: P pirate
Date: Oct 19, 2006

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Hello again,
thanks for your comments.
When I try to run the sparky-no-python.exe it gives an error cannot find tcl84.dll ..;this is a thing that can be fixed?

Another thing..I did a test in another PC with windows XP and in Linux as well ...the machine is an Athalon 3500+ with 2Gb of ram and GT6800. It was slow as well although a litle faster compared with prevous machine.

could you please (or someone else) give a try in installing and running Sparky on Windows XP?

Its really puzzling because none of other programs take this long to refresh with same data spec.

Thanks



Mandar T. Naik mandarn@... wrote:
Sorry PP, I have no other idea. The tasks you mention, that too on 2D are done
at blink of an eye. Please make sure you are using new version of Sparky and
if possible also give a try on other PC (preferably linux). Do you see
Exetensions menu in your session? If yes, try to execute and compare
performance of the standalone sparky-no-python. exe from bin folder.
regards
-mandar

On Wednesday 18 October 2006 20:34, P pirate wrote:
Hey again,
thanks for the input ...I can convert the files noww to UCSF forrmat....but
...but is still very slow ..I reboot the machine just in case and increased
the NMR data cached size from 4 to 50 mB and still is very slow...a full
noesy spect with not so many peaks takes about 10 secs to load. Please let
me know if you may have another hint about this problem. I really would
like to start using sparky instead of Felix. cheers and thanks again





Mandar T. Naik mandarn@ibms. sinica.edu. tw wrote:
Hi, I dont use Windows, so my answer has little ambiguity.
Bruk2ucsf reads acqu?s and proc?s files alongwith the 2rr or 3rrr file.
BYTORDP is a XwinNMR parameter for indicating byte order. Check the procs
file, you might see something like ##$BYTORDP= 1.

Please give absolute path for the 2rr file and make sure you dont have
any symbols in folder names.
-mandar

On Wednesday 18 October 2006 17:04, P pirate wrote:
Hello again,
I did as yo described and the output is the following:

couldnt find parameter BYTORDP in .procs

do you know whats is the problem?
thanks


Mandar T. Naik mandarn@ibms. sinica.edu. tw wrote: No, not python!
From command prompt. (If I am correct, Start Menu Accessories
Command Prompt).
-mandar

On Wednesday 18 October 2006 16:08, P pirate wrote:
Hello Mandar, thanks for that...it may help .....

in Windows XP how do I use that command to convert?
in the Sparky Phyton shell? never used python!!

sorry for this very basic question
cheers and thanks again


Mandar T. Naik wrote: Hi PP,
Something from the Sparky manual which might make the difference:

###########
Converting Bruker processed spectra to UCSF format

If you process your data with Brukers XWinNMR or UXNMR software you
can convert it to UCSF format using the program bruk2ucsf supplied
with Sparky. This program has not been tested much. Bruker processed
data can also be read directly by Sparky. Both the Bruker and UCSF
file formats store the data matrix in blocks so that the whole file
does not need to be brought into memory. The Bruker blocks are
typically large (1Mb) while the UCSF blocks are small (32Kb). Because
Sparky is designed to use the small blocks, you might run out of
memory if you have many Bruker spectra loaded simultaneously. In this
case you should convert the Bruker files to UCSF format with
bruk2ucsf.

To convert Bruker processed data 1/pdata/1/2rr to UCSF format use:

% bruk2ucsf 1/pdata/1/2rr noesy150.ucsf

###########

Try the data conversion and let us know,
regards
-mandar

On Wednesday 18 October 2006 15:09, pp_muscimol wrote:
hello....Im starting using sparky and its very slow (really slow)
refreshing the spectra window when you do any manipilations such as
zooming.

I read the 2 dimension files (2rr) as I do in NMRview or Auremol
using same PC (windowsXP-SP2) . The graphic card is decent Nvidia
6800 GT.

Comparing sparky spectra manipulations seems to take forever
compared with other above programs.

There is anything that you recommended or that I should have done in
order to have good refreshing rates?

Thanks in advance:
PP

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