(; GM[1]US[Brought to you by No Name Go Server] CoPyright[ This game was played on the No Name Go Server Permission to reproduce this game is given.] GN[TristanC-neurogo(B) NNGS] EV[None] RE[B+17.5] PW[TristanC]WR[4k ] PB[neurogo]BR[NR ] PC[NNGS Worldwide: nngs.cosmic.org 9696] DT[1999-06-03] SZ[9]TM[1500]KM[0.5] ;B[gc];W[cg]C[ TristanC 4k : how much time for a game for neurogo ? TristanC 4k : still on you pentium120 ? neurogo NR : It is a pentium 200 now ] ;B[cc];W[gg]C[ TristanC 4k : reminds me las match ;), next h4 ? ] ;B[ce]C[ TristanC 4k : made some improvments since last year ? ] ;W[bf];B[he];W[hg]C[ neurogo NR : Do you still work on Gogol at work? ] ;B[eg]C[ TristanC 4k : yes, i have mainly worked on life and death... ] ;W[dh]C[ neurogo NR : Do you have a fast solver? TristanC 4k : it could be 100 times faster, but it is 10 times faster than before :) neurogo NR : :) ] ;B[ef];W[fh];B[eh]C[ TristanC 4k : it would be interesting to see its place in the ladder. ] ;W[ei]C[ TristanC 4k : is it in the ladder, not yet i think ] ;B[bh]C[ TristanC 4k : I thought you used MFGo neurogo NR : I expected something like this ] ;W[ge]C[ neurogo NR : MFGo was also too slow for training, I used it as a benchmark TristanC 4k : so you learn mainly by self play ? ] ;B[fe]C[ neurogo NR : yes neurogo NR : It is not so bad ] ;W[hf]C[ TristanC 4k : is it the same network as last year or have you made him learn more ? neurogo NR : It is from last year. I had this newer one with a different architecture, but neurogo NR : it is still somewhat unstable ] ;B[gd];W[ag]C[ TristanC 4k : maybe the first really bad move :( ] ;B[gf];W[hi]C[ TristanC 4k : neurogo looks pretty well alive ] ;B[eb]C[ neurogo NR : Yes it does. Not much fight. ] ;W[bd]C[ neurogo NR : My test game last week was very different ] ;B[be]C[ TristanC 4k : if you play other matches on the web, please send me the sgf file :) neurogo NR : I will ] ;W[ae]C[ neurogo NR : Gogol is quite fast TristanC 4k : it runs on an old machine together with my pattern generation system TristanC 4k : so it is even faster ] ;B[cf];W[bg]C[ TristanC 4k : it plays 9x9 games in less than 1 min on a PC neurogo NR : Do you have a score? TristanC 4k : maybe i should make it search more ] ;B[bc]C[ TristanC 4k : black ahead 14 points ] ;W[ch]C[ neurogo NR : Black +15 points says NeuroGo neurogo NR : Search is only useful for tactics or with a stable evaluation function ] ;B[fi]C[ neurogo NR : this move was nonsense ] ;W[di]C[ TristanC 4k : sente is ok TristanC 4k : the bad answer of gogol makes it a good move :( ] ;B[fg];W[gh]C[ TristanC 4k : b +16 ] ;B[cd]C[ neurogo NR : B +15 ] ;W[ad];B[if];W[ac]C[ neurogo NR : NeuroGo's main variation: 14.15 J4 H8 G8 TristanC 4k : h8 g8 ! :) ] ;B[ab]C[ neurogo NR : :-) ] ;W[af];B[cb];W[ig];B[ie];W[dg];B[bi];W[ah]C[ neurogo NR : not sente TristanC 4k : :( ] ;B[df];W[tt];B[tt] ;)