(;US[Brought to you by No Name Go Server]GN[ManyFaces-GoAhead(B) NNGS]
  EV[None]RE[W+8.5]PW[ManyFaces]WR[10k*]PB[GoAhead]BR[NR ]
  PC[NNGS Cyberspace World: nngs.cosmic.org 9696]DT[1996-09-10]
  SZ[19]KM[0.5]HA[2]AB[pd][dp]TM[45' + 45'/25];W[dd];B[qp];W[qf]C[
 GoAhead NR : I tried to improve GA last week
 fotland 1d*: this has some fuseki improvements?
 GoAhead NR : hopefully he'll play some big points after a few josekis have been played
 GoAhead NR : what about you?
 fotland 1d*: a few minor changes.
];B[pf];W[pg];B[qe];W[of]C[
 fotland 1d*: made more this weekend, but not in this version yet.
];B[pe];W[rf]C[
 GoAhead NR : ok, I hope GA has a chance today
 fotland 1d*: should win, no problem.
 GoAhead NR : don't think so - only 1 win and about 6 losses so far at 2 handicap
];B[og];W[re];B[rd];W[ph]C[
 GoAhead NR : s16 not joseki
 fotland 1d*: this is joseki?
 GoAhead NR : up to p13 yes, but B(s16) was bad, because of weakness at r17 - better B(r17)
 GoAhead NR : also W(s15) is dangerous, because B can atari at q12
 fotland 1d*: I guess your p13 not in my library.
];B[nf];W[oh];B[ng];W[qc]C[
 GoAhead NR : ???
 fotland 1d*: wants to live in the corner
 GoAhead NR : not bad.
 fotland 1d*: should extend on edge first tho.
];B[rc];W[pc]C[
 GoAhead NR : looks promising for W
];B[qb]C[
 fotland 1d*: that was not so good...
 GoAhead NR : indeed 
];W[fq]C[
 fotland 1d*: oops ... 
 GoAhead NR : strange to leave this position as it is ...
];B[dn];W[jq];B[op];W[qk]C[
 GoAhead NR : MF thinks it's hopeless for q17/r17 stones?
 fotland 1d*: hard to tell, might just be playing bigger moves.
 GoAhead NR : same for GA
 fotland 1d*: now m3, right?
];B[cf];W[fd]C[
 fotland 1d*: still looks like b is way ahead.
];B[cj];W[qn]C[
 GoAhead NR : now it's time for some big points
 GoAhead NR : r6 was one of those
 fotland 1d*: mf likes to play in front of shimari.
 fotland 1d*: upper side bigger.
];B[ic];W[gc]C[
 fotland 1d*: now easy win for GA
 GoAhead NR : j17 was a big point according to GA
];B[lc];W[mq]C[
 GoAhead NR : well done, ManyFaces
];B[on]C[
 GoAhead NR : GA is scared ...
 GoAhead NR : p6 also considered as big for W
];W[oo]C[
 GoAhead NR : strange 
];B[po];W[no]C[
 GoAhead NR : what about the 3/3 invasion at UL corner, David - possible?
 fotland 1d*: sure, still possible.
];B[pn];W[qm]C[
 GoAhead NR : GA claims B+26
 fotland 1d*: MF b+22
];B[np];W[mp]C[
 GoAhead NR : unfortunately no ladder for B
 fotland 1d*: pushing into knights move not so good for B
 GoAhead NR : I see
];B[mo]C[
 GoAhead NR : GA creates second weak group ...
 fotland 1d*: corner (lr) never weak.
];W[or]C[
 fotland 1d*: but MF goes for terr instead
 GoAhead NR : reasonable decision
];B[nn];W[ej]C[
 fotland 1d*: better to invade now.
 GoAhead NR : hey you said MF can't reduce - and what is this?
 fotland 1d*: all kinds of moves are in MF, usually it won't reduce.
];B[ef]C[
 GoAhead NR : bad move (d12 better than e14)
];W[gj]C[
 fotland 1d*: c9 for W is big now.
 GoAhead NR : yes, dangerous for B
 fotland 1d*: now MF b+15
];B[oc]C[
 GoAhead NR : what a timing!
];W[cd]C[
 GoAhead NR : B+23 
 fotland 1d*: now B+5
 fotland 1d*: w need ll 3-3 or c9 now.
];B[dl];W[gf]C[
 fotland 1d*: c3 very big.
 GoAhead NR : what about W(c11)?
 fotland 1d*: c3 bigger.
 GoAhead NR : ok 
 fotland 1d*: b+12 
];B[gn]C[
 GoAhead NR : bad move
 GoAhead NR : d3 was GA's second choice (instead of g6)
];W[ch]C[
 fotland 1d*: trying to catch two stones :-)
 GoAhead NR : c12 was better than c11 maybe
 GoAhead NR : at least, W can connect to UL corner
 fotland 1d*: I like c11, but c3 is bigger.
];B[dh]C[
 fotland 1d*: now c11, d11, b10, c9, live on side is big.
 fotland 1d*: but MF won't play this way.
];W[dg]C[
 GoAhead NR : MF prefers to kill all of them
 fotland 1d*: d3 bigger since w can't seal in one move, and B is thick on other side.(n5)
 GoAhead NR : difficult choice for B here
];B[df]C[
 fotland 1d*: d14 should be at c13
 fotland 1d*: when opponent inside hane, always cut.
 GoAhead NR : what is "inside" hane?
 fotland 1d*: b c14-d12 knight relationship.
 fotland 1d*: w at d11 is outside hane, d13 is inside hane.
 GoAhead NR : I see, thank you
];W[di]C[
 fotland 1d*: now 3 stones might die.
 GoAhead NR : looks like it - and W is already leading
 fotland 1d*: w not leading if 3 stones live.
];B[eg]C[
 fotland 1d*: cut at c11 and 3 stones can connect.
 fotland 1d*: this way probably die.
];W[eh]C[
 fotland 1d*: c12 invasion great success.
 GoAhead NR : MF is strong
 fotland 1d*: g13 right?
 GoAhead NR : no, stones declared dead
 fotland 1d*: GA missed basic shape moves at c13 and c11.
 GoAhead NR : thanks for that information, MF would say
];B[ie];W[fg]C[
 fotland 1d*: now MF says w+17
 GoAhead NR : B+7 
];B[be];W[bd]C[
 GoAhead NR : I can't understand b15
 fotland 1d*: if b13 next, hurts the left side.
 GoAhead NR : yes, that hurts - not only left side
];B[fh];W[gh]C[
 GoAhead NR : It's getting worser by every move ...
 fotland 1d*: d3 worth over 20 points.
];B[ig];W[bg]C[
 GoAhead NR : d3 was again second choice, maybe now ...
 GoAhead NR : or invasion at h3?
 fotland 1d*: d3 is sente, threatens h3, part of why it is so big.
 fotland 1d*: if h3 now, just forces c3.
];B[ij]C[
 GoAhead NR : GA loves mojos like this
];W[fl]C[
 fotland 1d*: n11 is also big now.
 fotland 1d*: mf says W+12
 GoAhead NR : I fear the whole B group on left side gets into troubles after W(c3)
 fotland 1d*: but MF is not playing c3 - must not like result.
];B[dq]C[
 GoAhead NR : finally 
];W[hp]C[
 fotland 1d*: see, sente...
 GoAhead NR : see, but W also gains by this exchange, doesn't he?
];B[in]C[
 fotland 1d*: yes, so now MF says w+8
 fotland 1d*: n11 is the big one.
];W[hl]C[
 GoAhead NR : lets see, if MF gets the center as usual
 fotland 1d*: but b has center - how can mf get it?
 GoAhead NR : don't know how - just like in the other games before
];B[il];W[hm]C[
 fotland 1d*: b9 or c9 look interesting for W
 GoAhead NR : does MF know that?
 fotland 1d*: no, mf will play a10 there.
 GoAhead NR : a10 is excellent against GA
 GoAhead NR : cut around h6 now means nothing
 fotland 1d*: should connect at j7
];B[hn]C[
 fotland 1d*: connected on wrong side, facing w stones.
 fotland 1d*: should connect facing open area for more terr.
 GoAhead NR : true 
];W[im]C[
 fotland 1d*: maybe b can invade at h2?
 GoAhead NR : GA won't
];B[jm];W[ik]C[
 GoAhead NR : B+12 
 fotland 1d*: w+8 
];B[jk];W[jl];B[jj];W[jn];B[km];W[jo]C[
 GoAhead NR : another cut around f6 looks good now
 GoAhead NR : MF will not hesitate to try this, I think
];B[kl];W[fn]C[
 GoAhead NR : string tactics read it out?
 GoAhead NR : W+5 
];B[fo];W[em]C[
 GoAhead NR : still there, David?
];B[go]C[
 fotland 1d*: sorry, lost my connection
 fotland 1d*: now w can push and cut at d7
];W[dm]C[
 GoAhead NR : strong move
 GoAhead NR : W wins
];B[cm]C[
 fotland 1d*: still early.
 fotland 1d*: lets see how much w gets from this cut, and which side.
 GoAhead NR : what's the proper move here?
 fotland 1d*: many possible moves - depends on surrounding.
 GoAhead NR : c6 captues 2 stone and maybe 10 points of terr
];W[cl]C[
 fotland 1d*: b could now c6, d9, b8 to connect
 fotland 1d*: but w might b8 instead
 fotland 1d*: or b could have c9
];B[cn]C[
 GoAhead NR : c6 probably the proper decision
];W[dk]C[
 GoAhead NR : lets B connect ...
 fotland 1d*: now b8 connects.
 fotland 1d*: still, w ends with sente for n11
 fotland 1d*: but w last move could have been c9
 GoAhead NR : not b8?
 fotland 1d*: b8 might work also, have to read after B d9
];B[bl]C[
 fotland 1d*: this move is solid.
];W[ck]C[
 fotland 1d*: big reduction of b side in sente.
 GoAhead NR : true 
 GoAhead NR : B(h9) kills two stones, if desired
 fotland 1d*: about 5 points in gote - too small.
 GoAhead NR : I see, but maybe MF connects
 fotland 1d*: maybe, but shouldn't count on opponent making mistakes.
];B[bk]C[
 GoAhead NR : a move around r2 is also big
];W[er]C[
 GoAhead NR : sente (almost)
 fotland 1d*: mf likes these double sente moves.
 GoAhead NR : also defends against g2 invasion
 GoAhead NR : W+13 
 fotland 1d*: w+15 
 GoAhead NR : W wins again
];B[dr];W[hb]C[
 fotland 1d*: if w wins, 3 stones next week?
 GoAhead NR : I got criticized playing go at Monday evening at unisersity
 fotland 1d*: do we need a different night, or do you need a different location?
 GoAhead NR : only at weekend possible now
];B[ib]C[
 fotland 1d*: OK, weekend is fine since I can watch from home, like now.
];W[mi]C[
 fotland 1d*: yes! N11!
 GoAhead NR : well done, ManyFaces!
 fotland 1d*: w+23 
 GoAhead NR : W+13 
];B[hk]C[
 fotland 1d*: next weekend I will still be in Tokyo, but you can play 3 stones anyway.
];W[ki]C[
 GoAhead NR : ok. Maybe I'll try someday myself
 fotland 1d*: now GA should M12
 GoAhead NR : true 
 GoAhead NR : games weren't that interesting so far
 GoAhead NR : always clear MF successes
];B[ji];W[kh]C[
 fotland 1d*: how does GA do at 3 stones?
 GoAhead NR : about equal results (3:3 or so)
];B[kf]C[
 fotland 1d*: MF is not good at giving a handicap - likes to play too solidly.
 GoAhead NR : well, good enough for GA
 fotland 1d*: I mean 3,4 stone handicaps.  Maybe after a few games with GA I can improve this.
];W[gk];B[il];W[ml]C[
 GoAhead NR : MF gets center (at least part of it) as always
 fotland 1d*: now p8 big.
 GoAhead NR : changed to endgame mode
];B[mm];W[nl]C[
 GoAhead NR : busy to connect unimportant things
 fotland 1d*: w+29 
 GoAhead NR : W+13 
 GoAhead NR : I think, I'll finish this game
 fotland 1d*: ok. 
 GoAhead NR : so if you have better things to do ...
];B[hh];W[ae]C[
 GoAhead NR : q2 looks big to me
];B[ah]C[
 GoAhead NR : a12 not interesting and gote
 GoAhead NR : moreover, W(b11) punishes it
];W[qr];B[ol];W[ok];B[lp];W[lq];B[lo];W[kp];B[nr];W[nq];B[oq];W[pr];B[rq]C[
 fotland 1d*: w+34 
 GoAhead NR : yes, MF is right - a bit frustating ...
 GoAhead NR : W+20 
];W[lg];B[lf];W[ro];B[pl];W[pk];B[ql];W[rl];B[rm];W[rk];B[bi];W[mg];B[mf];W[ia];B[ja];W[ha];B[kb];W[nh];B[rr];W[rs]C[
 GoAhead NR : W+21 
 fotland 1d*: w+34 
 GoAhead NR : strange, this difference so late in the game
];B[sp];W[so];B[rp];W[ds];B[cs];W[en];B[sm];W[eo]C[
 GoAhead NR : strange exchange
 fotland 1d*: why let this big group die?
 GoAhead NR : don't know, I don't understand my program
];B[qo];W[ep]C[
 GoAhead NR : clear success for W
 GoAhead NR : W+25 
];B[eq];W[fp]C[
 GoAhead NR : oh, f4 was bad (watery mode?)
];B[fr]C[
 GoAhead NR : maybe we see another clamp later (B h2)
];W[gr]C[
 GoAhead NR : W+17 
];B[es];W[do];B[co];W[cp];B[cq];W[hi];B[ii];W[sl];B[pm];W[gs]C[
 GoAhead NR : W+24 
 ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 31
];B[hf];W[ge];B[kn];W[sd];B[sc]C[
 woitke 6k : Are you waiting for ManyFaces, Castor and jjcale?
 jjcale 8k*: No, i am watching your program
 woitke 6k : ok, fine - then I finish the game
 Castor 6k*: I get the feeling woitke is the GA programmer?
 woitke 6k : right, Castor
 Castor 6k*: I was already surprised how you talked about GA
];W[se]C[
 woitke 6k : sorry, no chance for GA today
  woitke 6k : I tried to improve, but MF is just too strong
 jjcale 8k*: there is no tree search locally ?
 woitke 6k : tree search only for life&death, endgames and ladders
 woitke 6k : ManyFaces performs also cut and connect reading
 jjcale 8k*: how did he played Q7 ?
 woitke 6k : Q7 was result of life&death reading
];B[pq]C[
 Castor 6k*: on which system GA is running?
 woitke 6k : GoAhead runs on an Atari ST
 woitke 6k : (therefore so slow)
];W[ll]C[
 woitke 6k : you can play against GoAhead if you like to test the program - any?
 Castor 6k*: no access to ST
 jjcale 8k*: i would like it
 woitke 6k : now via internet I mean
 woitke 6k : how many handicap stones, jjcale?
 jjcale 8k*: difficult to say
 woitke 6k : I'm personally 7k and have problems at 9 stones myself
 woitke 6k : (although I now how he plays)
];B[lj]C[
 Castor 6k*: also an 9x9 mode?
 woitke 6k : sure
 Castor 6k*: and better on 9x9 against MF?
 Castor 6k*: you said: you dont understand your own prg 
 woitke 6k : sometimes, I'm frustrated about GA's blunders
 woitke 6k : ok, I adjourn this game and play against jjcale, ok?
 jjcale 8k*: ok
];W[kj]C[
  GoAhead NR : W+18
  ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 36
];B[af];W[bh];B[ag];W[bf];B[ad];W[bc];B[ce];W[ac]C[
  GoAhead NR : B+0
  ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 13
];B[ae];W[ee];B[lk];W[kk]C[
  GoAhead NR : W+5
  ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 15
];B[dj];W[el];B[bp];W[ff];B[ci];W[fi];B[hj];W[lm]C[
  GoAhead NR : W+6
 ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 14
];B[cg];W[dh];B[ln];W[nm];B[nk];W[mk];B[hd];W[de];B[ai];W[fs]C[
  GoAhead NR : W+4
  ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 14
];B[mj];W[nj];B[gd];W[he];B[fc];W[fb];B[hc];W[ec]C[
  GoAhead NR : W+6
  ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 14
];B[er];W[hg];B[gg];W[gi];B[hg];W[jh];B[ih];W[mn]C[
 GoAhead NR : W+9
 ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 14
];B[jg];W[gm];B[om];W[nk];B[mm];W[aj];B[bj];W[mn];B[gb];W[ga]C[
 GoAhead NR : W+8
 ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 11
];B[mm];W[rn]C[
 GoAhead NR : what a ko-fight !
];B[sn];W[mn]C[
 GoAhead NR : W+8
 ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 11
];B[ek];W[fk];B[mm];W[ka];B[la];W[mn];B[ss];W[sr];B[sq];W[qs];B[qq];W[mm];B[mr];W[lr];B[os];W[ms];B[kg];W[mh];B[ss];W[ns];B[sr];W[ko]C[
 ManyFaces 10k*: White is winning by 8
];B[qi];W[qh];B[qj];W[ri];B[tt];W[tt])
