(; GM[1]US[Brought to you by IGS] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) I.Net Technologies, Inc. 1995 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[ManyFaces-GoAhead(B) IGS]RE[W+Resign] PW[ManyFaces]WR[13k ]NW[ 19] PB[GoAhead]BR[NR ]NB[ 0] PC[IGS: igs.nuri.net 6969]DT[1996-09-03] SZ[19]TM[3000]KM[0.500000]LT[] ;B[pd]BL[2901] ;W[cp]WL[2997]C[ ] ;B[pp]BL[2860] ;W[dc]WL[2996] ;B[de]BL[2816] ;W[cg]WL[2985]C[ GoAhead NR : how does MF choose joseki, David? fotland 1k : looks at several variations from library, lays out entire sequence, fotland 1k : then local obvious responses, full board quiescence. fotland 1k : order of sequences to try is specified in library fotland 1k : total number of endpoints is limited. ] ;B[cc]BL[2408] ;W[cd]WL[2965]C[ fotland 1k : you have this joseki in your library? GoAhead NR : GoAhead just plays randomly choosen joseki GoAhead NR : some additional code for extensions, but not so good fotland 1k : I like to lay out the more popular sequences to see if they work with the adjacent corners fotland 1k : also helps avoid joseki that depend on ladders that don't work. GoAhead NR : yes, ladder josekis are a problem to GoAhead fotland 1k : but ladder is good for B this time, so not a problem. ] ;B[dd]BL[2194] ;W[ce]WL[2955] ;B[cf]BL[2186] ;W[bf]WL[2927] ;B[ec]BL[2178] ;W[db]WL[2920] ;B[df]BL[2159] ;W[bd]WL[2905]C[ fotland 1k : is this in your library? GoAhead NR : yes it is ] ;B[eb]BL[2132] ;W[cb]WL[2902] ;B[dg]BL[2114] ;W[ch]WL[2899]C[ fotland 1k : looks very good for B fotland 1k : play in upper side, and B is ahead. GoAhead NR : I think W should have played d14 instead of b14 fotland 1k : thats more popular. But with ladder good, still not a great result. ] ;B[kc]BL[2067] ;W[qf]WL[2897] ;B[qh]BL[2058] ;W[qc]WL[2895] ;B[pc]BL[2046] ;W[qd]WL[2893]C[ fotland 1k : anyway MF prefers terr to thickness sometimes. ] ;B[pe]BL[2017] ;W[rf]WL[2891]C[ GoAhead NR : l17 was no good idea - now too close to second wall GoAhead NR : better k17 instead fotland 1k : I like a high move, K16 or L16. GoAhead NR : I see - better ] ;B[og]BL[1969] ;W[eq]WL[2884]C[ fotland 1k : MF is not good at reducing moves. It's more likely to invade deeply and die. ] ;B[nq]BL[1925] ;W[qn]WL[2876]C[ fotland 1k : too close, halfway is better. GoAhead NR : another randomly choosen move ] ;B[rp]BL[1906] ;W[qk]WL[2873]C[ GoAhead NR : now joseki phase almost finished ] ;B[qb]BL[1862] ;W[rb]WL[2857]C[ GoAhead NR : your r6/r9 works good at right side fotland 1k : r6/R9 is weak. you can attack it to seal the big upper side. ] ;B[ob]BL[1813] ;W[qe]WL[2841]C[ fotland 1k : strange way to live. S19 or r19 is better. GoAhead NR : I think MF will cut sooner or later around q12 and then fight ] ;B[ke]BL[1731] ;W[pg]WL[2835]C[ GoAhead NR : what did i say fotland 1k : looks like it... GoAhead NR : GA claims B+10 fotland 1k : MF thinks B+16. ] ;B[pi]BL[1681]C[ GoAhead NR : bad move ] ;W[oh]WL[2824] ;B[ph]BL[1625] ;W[nh]WL[2805]C[ fotland 1k : now if p14, p10. GoAhead NR : I see - severe ] ;B[oj]BL[1559] ;W[mi]WL[2793]C[ fotland 1k : good. 2 W stones are in trouble. GoAhead NR : this is GA's local mode - he only chooses between moves generated from p10 group currently ] ;B[om]BL[1482] ;W[rj]WL[2771]C[ fotland 1k : MF might decide it is hopeless to save these stones. ] ;B[pk]BL[1444]C[ fotland 1k : lets W connect... GoAhead NR : oh this is bad - B must intersect ] ;W[si]WL[2744]C[ GoAhead NR : the proper connection fotland 1k : now MF B+18 fotland 1k : I'd connect from the other side at t13. GoAhead NR : please explain fotland 1k : small difference. Maybe later you make ko threat to cut in big ko. ] ;B[of]BL[1354]C[ fotland 1k : if W decides to sac stones, T13 saves one more stone. ] ;W[kh]WL[2728]C[ fotland 1k : big moves on bottom and left side. GoAhead NR : now that B group is save more or less, he returned to the shape move at p14 fotland 1k : e11 big for both sides. GoAhead NR : I recently worked on these moves, where two mojos overlap ] ;B[pn]BL[1244]C[ GoAhead NR : ... but not so! ] ;W[ji]WL[2721]C[ fotland 1k : small move for small move. GoAhead NR : yes, both are busy to connect unimportant things fotland 1k : maybe GA will move to capture R7? GoAhead NR : maybe - he likes small bones very much ] ;B[qm]BL[1148] ;W[kk]WL[2716]C[ fotland 1k : but MF still worried about group in center. GoAhead NR : building center strength is not so bad for W in this game fotland 1k : yes, works well for W with E11 or K10 GoAhead NR : I don't know how to get rid of those small stone eating moves fotland 1k : better evaluation. fotland 1k : this capture only a few points. After big extension, if W saves, B gets more, and sente. fotland 1k : now E11 looks even bigger. ] ;B[qo]BL[1028] ;W[dm]WL[2709]C[ fotland 1k : why R5 - W is already captured. GoAhead NR : GA was not sure ] ;B[rm]BL[946]C[ GoAhead NR : oh, another bad one GoAhead NR : W+1 now fotland 1k : MF thinks tie. ] ;W[jq]WL[2704]C[ GoAhead NR : finally MF plays big points - well done fotland 1k : W gets all the big moves. GA 4 moves to capture one stone :-( GoAhead NR : shame on me ] ;B[sk]BL[808]C[ GoAhead NR : another blunder - yes you were right fotland 1k : I guess the last one was a shape move, not to capture, right? ] ;W[lq]WL[2701]C[ fotland 1k : maybe W gets 100 points in lower center? fotland 1k : MF qualifies shapes with group strength. Won't make this move if one group is dead. GoAhead NR : e11 still bigger than m3, but m3 also an excellent move fotland 1k : mf prefers extensions toward enemy. ] ;B[jo]BL[637] ;W[lo]WL[2694]C[ fotland 1k : now we get a good fight... GoAhead NR : well, difficult fight for B GoAhead NR : W should welcome this ] ;B[iq]BL[584]C[ fotland 1k : but B might live inside W terr. I prefer reducing moves from B. ] ;W[lm]WL[2663]C[ fotland 1k : MF always goes for safety first. GoAhead NR : MF again busy with connecting fotland 1k : now B can live easily. ] ;B[ip]BL[531] ;W[ho]WL[2654]C[ fotland 1k : better for b to play k2 or k4 than j4. GoAhead NR : I'm pretty sure that MF kills B here - no chance fotland 1k : easy to live. ] ;B[jm]BL[483]C[ GoAhead NR : that direction leads to nowhere ... ] ;W[hr]WL[2631]C[ fotland 1k : so agressive! GoAhead NR : just as usual, if MF smells death fotland 1k : but g3 would be better - still no eyes for B here. ] ;B[ir]BL[412] ;W[gp]WL[2622]C[ fotland 1k : I guess MF wants the possile connection to help group on right. fotland 1k : now MF thinks w+49! GoAhead NR : I've W+14 fotland 1k : must think the B group is dead. GoAhead NR : it is. ] ;B[hq]BL[333]C[ GoAhead NR : terrible fotland 1k : still should live. ] ;W[gq]WL[2613]C[ fotland 1k : there's one eye. fotland 1k : l4 peep gives another one. GoAhead NR : why W(g3)? - g2 was obvious fotland 1k : don't know. Sometimes doesn't see eye here. fotland 1k : or maybe thinks group is dead still - just one eye. fotland 1k : h2 move was bad. ] ;B[gr]BL[268] ;W[fr]WL[2597] ;B[hs]BL[213] ;W[jr]WL[2589]C[ GoAhead NR : that peep chance has disappeared ] ;B[hm]BL[133] ;W[in]WL[2572]C[ fotland 1k : I worry about W group on right. GoAhead NR : a cut around m8 later you mean? fotland 1k : after K6, B can cut at M6. If B gets enough outside libs, can win semeai. fotland 1k : also cut around M8. W is not thick here. ] ;B[jn]BL[28] ;W[im]WL[2560]C[ GoAhead NR : is entering byo-yomi ] ;B[il]BL[2969] ;W[jl]WL[2546]C[ fotland 1k : now B can cut, but W has more liberties. GoAhead NR : looks like game over fotland 1k : no - If B cuts, W might live rather than fight, and let B out. ] ;B[hl]BL[2891] ;W[mk]WL[2533]C[ fotland 1k : W fixes the connection. GoAhead NR : GA considers his stones as dead now ] ;B[hi]BL[2808]C[ GoAhead NR : W+32 fotland 1k : MF thiks W+47 ] ;W[hg]WL[2523]C[ fotland 1k : again so agressive! GoAhead NR : good move GoAhead NR : seems that you do not often watch MF's games - always aggressive like this fotland 1k : I know. It's alwaus been like this, since it was 30K. ] ;B[fi]BL[2747] ;W[ih]WL[2513]C[ fotland 1k : I don't know how to stop it. GoAhead NR : B's mojo will be devasted GoAhead NR : GA's local mode will continue in center ] ;B[di]BL[2681] ;W[ci]WL[2510]C[ fotland 1k : d11 good - connect with sente and reduce side. fotland 1k : now w gets nothing on left. fotland 1k : h15, d9 both look good. ] ;B[dh]BL[2617]C[ GoAhead NR : oh - too bad ] ;W[hd]WL[2502]C[ fotland 1k : why d12? B already connected. GoAhead NR : yes, it's frustating. Seems like shape error ] ;B[cj]BL[2538] ;W[cl]WL[2498]C[ fotland 1k : now W+117! GoAhead NR : W better cut instead GoAhead NR : no reason to fear anything in that region ] ;B[bj]BL[2458] ;W[hb]WL[2492]C[ GoAhead NR : MF must be thinking he can kill the whole left B group fotland 1k : I think MF wants to kill the entire left big B group. GoAhead NR : GA doesn't see the danger ] ;B[dj]BL[2352] ;W[fe]WL[2480]C[ GoAhead NR : strong fotland 1k : eye stealing... GoAhead NR : too bad - MF is in good shape today fotland 1k : as usual, fell behind in fuseki... ] ;B[ed]BL[2271] ;W[fj]WL[2474]C[ GoAhead NR : brutal fotland 1k : strange. fotland 1k : just f9 and capture it. GoAhead NR : now GA marks his stones with "?", indicating the danger ] ;B[el]BL[2177]C[ fotland 1k : good! fotland 1k : now should live. fotland 1k : maybe h10 is intersting. ] ;W[gi]WL[2419]C[ GoAhead NR : but even if B lives, W gained here - no question fotland 1k : yes, B lost upper side. GoAhead NR : B has 40 points or so and it can't become more ] ;B[gj]BL[2059] ;W[gh]WL[2371]C[ GoAhead NR : yes, ahead after fuseki (as always), but GA is quite bad in defending mojos fotland 1k : W+61 GoAhead NR : W+40 ] ;B[hj]BL[1942] ;W[nc]WL[2338]C[ fotland 1k : time for n14 or n2 fotland 1k : now trying to kill other big b group. fotland 1k : mf doesn't see B connection to L15/L17. ] ;B[mf]BL[1857]C[ fotland 1k : good. ] ;W[bk]WL[2283] ;B[ag]BL[1737] ;W[bi]WL[2263] ;B[ai]BL[1597] ;W[ah]WL[2241] ;B[bh]BL[1485] ;W[ld]WL[2230] ;B[kd]BL[1359] ;W[qa]WL[2172]C[ GoAhead NR : seems that GA has tricked MF somewhat on left side fotland 1k : I don't know what MF was thinking of. ] ;B[pa]BL[1229]C[ GoAhead NR : is there any danger for the W group on left as a whole? fotland 1k : no danger. ] ;W[nb]WL[2114]C[ GoAhead NR : no danger - no problem, W wins GoAhead NR : MF has switched to attack UR corner now ] ;B[ra]BL[1133]C[ GoAhead NR : ... but should be careful now ] ;W[sb]WL[2052]C[ GoAhead NR : T18 is good, unconditionally alive fotland 1k : how about S13, T13, T14, T15, S16 W dies. GoAhead NR : hmm, I was wrong - good reading, David fotland 1k : to live, W must give up 3 W stones. GoAhead NR : I see. ] ;B[lf]BL[1058]C[ GoAhead NR : GA is busy now with L&D calculations everywhere on board ] ;W[fk]WL[2013]C[ GoAhead NR : GA might play b13 now GoAhead NR : GA thinks f9/f10 still dead ] ;B[af]BL[899]C[ fotland 1k : good way to capture. ] ;W[fl]WL[1969]C[ fotland 1k : see how t13 was better than t11 to connect? fotland 1k : general rule for connecting - play near bigger group if a choice. GoAhead NR : nice proverb GoAhead NR : now that will become difficult for B fotland 1k : do 6 B stones in center die? ] ;B[fm]BL[756]C[ GoAhead NR : yes, seems hopeless for B fotland 1k : hard for me to read after b f7 fotland 1k : f7, e7, e9, g7, f6, g6, and w can connect or capture f7. fotland 1k : now lets see if MF can read this... fotland 1k : f7 or g7 works. ] ;W[em]WL[1912]C[ GoAhead NR : MF is just too strong at such types of reading GoAhead NR : I'm a little disappointed about this game GoAhead NR : thought that GA could make it closer than last one - not so! fotland 1k : like last game, GA started with thickness in center, but MF ended with terr in center. ] ;B[ek]BL[619]C[ fotland 1k : was all the 4 wasted moves in lower right. fotland 1k : like giving back 3 stone handicap. GoAhead NR : yes, you are right. ] ;W[gm]WL[1859]C[ fotland 1k : should be easy to fix though. GoAhead NR : I'll try it till next monday GoAhead NR : it looks easy but it's hard indeed GoAhead NR : if GA thinks, he can kill something, he forgets about anything else fotland 1k : well, qualify shapes with group strength part is easy. ] ;B[ff]BL[493]C[ fotland 1k : cool. Programs are playing same sequence I read out. Both are strong. GoAhead NR : h6 instead would have been a chance? ] ;W[ie]WL[1816]C[ GoAhead NR : has entered byo-yomi again fotland 1k : I didn't see h6. Yes, that works. fotland 1k : h6 j5 g5 h4 f6 GoAhead NR : but too complicated for GA fotland 1k : eventually w will add a stone since it is ahead. ] ;B[fh]BL[2880] ;W[fn]WL[1803]C[ GoAhead NR : trying to make eyes for B group ... fotland 1k : w+72 GoAhead NR : I think it's time to resign GoAhead NR : W+30 fotland 1k : w upper left might still die, but its not enough. ] ;B[gb]BL[2733] ;W[be]WL[1798]; )