(; GM[1]US[Brought to you by IGS] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) I.Net Technologies, Inc. 1995 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[GoAhead-wilcox(B) IGS]RE[W+Resign] PW[GoAhead]WR[NR ]NW[ 0] PB[wilcox]BR[2d ]NB[ 33] PC[IGS: igs.nuri.net 6969]DT[1996-08-12] SZ[19]TM[45'+45'/25]KM[5.5]LT[] C[ GoAhead NR : ok, hope for a happy hour - please use the say-command GoAhead NR : You are 2d personally? wilcox 2d : yes. GoAhead NR : I would appreciate a few go comments from you (I'm 7k) ] ;B[pp]BL[2624] ;W[cq]WL[2681] ;B[pd]BL[2570] ;W[cd]WL[2667] ;B[pj]BL[2555] ;W[nc]WL[2646] ;B[oc]BL[2526] ;W[nd]WL[2637] ;B[pf]BL[2514] ;W[jc]WL[2624] ;B[dp]BL[2501] ;W[dq]WL[2614]C[ GoAhead NR : is Ego stronger than EzGo share ware version? GoAhead NR : which style did you choose? wilcox 2d : Ego is EZ-GO, just a question of personalities, Samurai used. GoAhead NR : GoAhead won a few times against Leaper/Fiery/Phycho GoAhead NR : (unregistered version so far) ] ;B[ep]BL[2486] ;W[bo]WL[2598] ;B[eq]BL[2475] ;W[dn]WL[2589] ;B[jp]BL[2459]C[ wilcox 2d : looks like a moyo-moyo game. ] ;W[qq]WL[2538] ;B[pq]BL[2448]C[ GoAhead NR : oh, r3 looks expensive wilcox 2d : good work. ] ;W[qp]WL[2526] ;B[po]BL[2438]C[ wilcox 2d : it's a joseki ] ;W[rn]WL[2507] ;B[qo]BL[2428]C[ GoAhead NR : GoAhead is out of joseki now (didn't knew q5) wilcox 2d : so now comes the true test. GoAhead NR : could you give a proper variation after q5? wilcox 2d : hane and connect at q2, then jump to r6 ] ;W[ro]WL[2456] ;B[qr]BL[2426] ;W[rr]WL[2437] ;B[pr]BL[2423]C[ GoAhead NR : B looks big on lower side ] ;W[ed]WL[2406]C[ GoAhead NR : when can finish the game, Bruce? wilcox 2d : could continue tomorrow morning same time. GoAhead NR : tomorrow is ok. ] ;B[gr]BL[2350]C[ GoAhead NR : oops wilcox 2d : yes. oops. ] ;W[cj]WL[2378] ;B[ql]BL[2325]C[ GoAhead NR : good move, dangerous for GoAhead GoAhead NR : I hope that Ego is not so good as ManyFaces in killing - or LR corner will die ] ;W[jn]WL[2349] ;B[mq]BL[2311]C[ wilcox 2d : your cap too mild. GoAhead NR : what else should he play? wilcox 2d : aside from living, just develop moyo, eg f6 or g6 GoAhead NR : I see. ] ;W[ip]WL[2312] ;B[io]BL[2299] ;W[hp]WL[2257] ;B[jo]BL[2287]C[ GoAhead NR : now the fun has begun wilcox 2d : of course you must cut. GoAhead NR : sure. ] ;W[ho]WL[2227] ;B[in]BL[2276] ;W[fo]WL[2198] ;B[ir]BL[2255]C[ wilcox 2d : I was getting my pancake. ] ;W[jm]WL[2155] ;B[im]BL[2245]C[ wilcox 2d : white's position is not good. GoAhead NR : yes, B's mojo will become huge, I fear ] ;W[eo]WL[2097] ;B[iq]BL[2232] ;W[jj]WL[2047] ;B[jl]BL[2221] ;W[km]WL[2015] ;B[il]BL[2209]C[ wilcox 2d : yech for white, conservative for black GoAhead NR : I think, Ego is good in mojo games wilcox 2d : maybe samurai is. ] ;W[kl]WL[1975] ;B[kk]BL[2199]C[ GoAhead NR : also Ego's chinese opening is good. GoAhead NR : oh, oh, GoAhead should leave this area GoAhead NR : only becomes worse by every move ] ;W[nm]WL[1921] ;B[pm]BL[2184] ;W[jk]WL[1884] ;B[hj]BL[2170]C[ GoAhead NR : now GoAhead has a chance to pull his stones out, but expensive anyway ] ;W[lj]WL[1831] ;B[lk]BL[2158]C[ GoAhead NR : m10 was a lose lad calculation wilcox 2d : loose or lose? GoAhead NR : sorry, I'm German, please explain wilcox 2d : loose ladder is a kind of ladder. Lose ladder means your move doesn't work. GoAhead NR : you mean, it doesn't work? wilcox 2d : correct. it doesn't work. GoAhead NR : I see it - too bad ] ;W[mk]WL[1769] ;B[ll]BL[2145] ;W[lm]WL[1707] ;B[ml]BL[2131] ;W[nl]WL[1655] ;B[mj]BL[2122]C[ GoAhead NR : Ego calculates good. wilcox 2d : thank you. ] ;W[nk]WL[1615] ;B[nj]BL[2110]C[ wilcox 2d : but ... wilcox 2d : ego can get distracted. ] ;W[mm]WL[1561]C[ GoAhead NR : can you explain B(o10), why did it happen, Bruce? wilcox 2d : no, link distraction. GoAhead NR : what is distraction? wilcox 2d : gets confused on focus, shifts to doing something else. ] ;B[oh]BL[2095] ;W[li]WL[1505]C[ GoAhead NR : hmm, wasting a move GoAhead NR : PLEASE, LEAVE THIS AREA NOW! ] ;B[gl]BL[2084] ;W[jh]WL[1402]C[ wilcox 2d : ego claims it will win game by 16 points. GoAhead NR : GoAhead claims W+16 (including komi) ] ;B[cg]BL[2071] ;W[ej]WL[1330] ;B[eg]BL[2058]C[ GoAhead NR : I think, I would rather play W here ... wilcox 2d : black claims 21 now. wilcox 2d : including corner dying? GoAhead NR : I see - than not ] ;W[gd]WL[1296] ;B[fi]BL[2041]C[ GoAhead NR : Ego thinks W's corner already dead? wilcox 2d : no. not yet. ] ;W[el]WL[1218]C[ GoAhead NR : s1 kills, right? wilcox 2d : likely. but depends on skill of players. GoAhead NR : W might get an eye with s8 wilcox 2d : right. score now equal. GoAhead NR : I have W+24 ] ;B[fj]BL[2029] ;W[dh]WL[1153] ;B[dg]BL[2019]C[ wilcox 2d : this could be good for white on the cut. GoAhead NR : oh, degiri (e12) looks good ] ;W[ch]WL[1095]C[ GoAhead NR : too bad. wilcox 2d : missed the opportunity ] ;B[gg]BL[2009]C[ GoAhead NR : well done, Ego ] ;W[lp]WL[1012] ;B[lq]BL[1996]C[ wilcox 2d : I need to leave now. tomorrow again? GoAhead NR : m4 will end in gote GoAhead NR : oh, too bad, no chance today later? wilcox 2d : my 9pm == your late. GoAhead NR : right - so tomorrow your 8am/my 5pm - bye, Bruce wilcox 2d : bye. On next day ... GoAhead NR : what do you think about the game so far, Bruce? wilcox 2d : I have lots of work to do when I finally start redoing Ego. wilcox 2d : and you've done a good job on Goahead GoAhead NR : oh, thanks GoAhead NR : ok. my comments: GoAhead NR : I think, it was a pretty good game so far GoAhead NR : I saw worse things happen in computer go wilcox 2d : much worse. GoAhead NR : I think, the game is quite close GoAhead NR : maybe, W is leading in territory a bit, but ... GoAhead NR : W must keep all territory he has mapped out wilcox 2d : your clock is running. wilcox 2d : is goahead thinking? GoAhead NR : if B kills RL corner or succeeds in an invasion on top, B will win ] ;W[ko]WL[835]C[ GoAhead NR : that was the last move from yesterday ] ;B[lc]BL[1984]C[ wilcox 2d : now begins the new struggle. GoAhead NR : yes, good. GoAhead NR : B has strong groups everywhere, so he can fight to the hardest ] ;W[ld]WL[776] ;B[kc]BL[1971]C[ GoAhead NR : good move again wilcox 2d : will black get simple life by merely pushing along the edge? GoAhead NR : you are the dan player! wilcox 2d : black can live because of the P17 stone and ability to break out. wilcox 2d : not to say Ego will use them. ] ;W[kd]WL[692]C[ GoAhead NR : hope you have more time today wilcox 2d : I'm good for a couple of hours. GoAhead NR : hope it's enough - L&D problems take a lot time for GoAhaed ] ;B[ei]BL[1954]C[ wilcox 2d : obviously black doesn't like to continue up there. GoAhead NR : quite exciting ... ] ;W[di]WL[617]C[ wilcox 2d : ego has given the upper stones as dead. wilcox 2d : bad move. ] ;B[ek]BL[1938]C[ GoAhead NR : unfortunately, E11 was enough to bring GoAhead in local answer mode wilcox 2d : in local answer should have been d10 for good shape GoAhead NR : right. GoAhead NR : L17 group also declared dead. ] ;W[dk]WL[551] ;B[fk]BL[1924]C[ wilcox 2d : a peaceable local ending. wilcox 2d : you have sente. GoAhead NR : at least, invasion at r17 is impossible now wilcox 2d : only with good players. ] ;W[jf]WL[467]C[ GoAhead NR : oh, another useless move GoAhead NR : GoAhead *had* sente ] ;B[be]BL[1906]C[ wilcox 2d : ruining a chance for another invasion. bad black. GoAhead NR : invasion point was d17? wilcox 2d : or c17 wilcox 2d : c17 is light reduction. GoAhead NR : you mean d17, than b16 and giving up c17? wilcox 2d : yes. ] ;W[bd]WL[391] ;B[bg]BL[1902]C[ wilcox 2d : ego says White will win by 26 GoAhead NR : I have W+28 wilcox 2d : well then, we can argue about where the 2 points are :) GoAhead NR : better not ] ;W[bh]WL[315] ;B[mf]BL[1891]C[ wilcox 2d : threatens revival of upper side. GoAhead NR : that might bring L17 back to life GoAhead NR : yes, marked "?" now ] ;W[jd]WL[246]C[ GoAhead NR : ouch ] ;B[md]BL[1878]C[ wilcox 2d : mild reduction by black. GoAhead NR : better n17, right? wilcox 2d : much. ] ;W[mc]WL[124]C[ GoAHead NR : say uff, I feared W played n15 instead of n17 wilcox 2d : yes, I was wondering if n15 would get played. ] ;B[me]BL[1876]C[ wilcox 2d : so now you are only winning by 21 wilcox 2d : and you can invade at r17 GoAhead NR : right. GoAhead NR : top looks pretty sure now ] ;W[lb]WL[61] ;B[lg]BL[1863]C[ wilcox 2d : each side oversecures. wilcox 2d : now ego says White +14 GoAhead NR : W+21 GoAhead NR : well, this is no oversecure in computer go wilcox 2d : true. GoAhead NR : is entering byo-yomi ] ;W[ce]WL[2657]C[ GoAhead NR : oh, bad again ] ;B[bf]BL[1851]C[ wilcox 2d : not much bad. GoAhead NR : ... if Ego answers wilcox 2d : yes. GoAhead NR : (s1!) wilcox 2d : minor detail. ] ;W[rs]WL[2595]C[ GoAhead NR : oh, whow! he did it! ] ;B[mi]BL[1841]C[ wilcox 2d : that should put your mind to rest. GoAhead NR : you know a lot ] ;W[hf]WL[2530]C[ GoAhead NR : left side open now (r17 or even better t9) wilcox 2d : t9 is not better. GoAhead NR : interesting ] ;B[mh]BL[1831]C[ GoAhead NR : oh, passive move wilcox 2d : also creates liberty shortages. GoAhead NR : for whom? wilcox 2d : you. better to play s8, black block, s7 with later for you. ] ;W[ob]WL[2442] ;B[pb]BL[1821]C[ GoAhead NR : that chance has gone ... wilcox 2d : reducing is enough for someone with excess points. ] ;W[na]WL[2379] ;B[rm]BL[1810]C[ wilcox 2d : more to the point, your time per move is risky. GoAhead NR : please explain wilcox 2d : my mistake, ignore time message. GoAhead NR : you mean, I could lose on time? wilcox 2d : no, I thought so but I had miscomputed. GoAhead NR : (sorry about the slow performance, Bruce) wilcox 2d : you have what you have. GoAhead NR : ... which is an Atari ] ;W[sp]WL[2319]C[ wilcox 2d : things get simpler, sort of. Can still invade r17 wilcox 2d : ego still says white +14 ] ;B[qn]BL[1788]C[ GoAhead NR : W+23 ] ;W[er]WL[2234]C[ GoAhead NR : changed to endgame mode now wilcox 2d : big. GoAhead NR : I think, f2 was bigger wilcox 2d : fancy moves are always risky when you are winning. GoAhead NR : good comment ] ;B[fr]BL[1777] ;W[ds]WL[2164] ;B[sn]BL[1768]C[ GoAhead NR : GoAhead doesn't see a possibility for invasion into right side anymore wilcox 2d : too bad. ] ;W[fq]WL[2072]C[ wilcox 2d : cut doesnt work. ] ;B[fp]BL[1753]C[ GoAhead NR : I see. GoAhead NR : oh, oh, dangerous wilcox 2d : yes you could lose your lead over this. ] ;W[gq]WL[1974] ;B[gp]BL[1752] ;W[go]WL[1909]C[ GoAhead NR : uff, the proper decision wilcox 2d : yes. ] ;B[hq]BL[1742]C[ GoAhead NR : W+18 wilcox 2d : if another surprise like that, you will lose. ] ;W[no]WL[1850] ;B[qd]BL[1729]C[ wilcox 2d : blocks invasion GoAhead NR : sure. good. (but useless against GoAhead) ] ;W[pa]WL[1752] ;B[qb]BL[1717]C[ GoAhead NR : B is chicken wilcox 2d : cluck. cluck. ] ;W[np]WL[1689] ;B[nq]BL[1705]C[ GoAhead NR : what does Ego know about ko? GoAhead NR : GoAhead: the rule, play atari wilcox 2d : ko threats known. ] ;W[mp]WL[1632] ;B[qh]BL[1689]C[ wilcox 2d : another invasion stopper. Ego will lose. GoAhead NR : so good, that Ego can't hear me! GoAhead NR : will Ego invade upper side? ] ;W[gf]WL[1570]C[ wilcox 2d : at some point maybe. ] ;B[fg]BL[1676]C[ GoAhead NR : let's wait and see GoAhead NR : (he must trick GoAhead there) ] ;W[kf]WL[1496]C[ GoAhead NR : I'm not sure what happens if B c5 later wilcox 2d : c5 means nothing. ] ;B[hc]BL[1664]C[ GoAhead NR : here we go wilcox 2d : easy start for you, just block g17 GoAhead NR : h16 should also work wilcox 2d : h16 is much more risky. wilcox 2d : life avaiable by sacrifice h17 GoAhead NR : yes, I see - B f17 then, right? wilcox 2d : yes. assuming you block outside then d17. ] ;W[gc]WL[1383]C[ wilcox 2d : good. GoAhead NR : solid now, no chance ] ;B[dc]BL[1653]C[ wilcox 2d : not to say no try. GoAhead NR : yes, I must keep in mind that it's computer go ] ;W[ec]WL[1266] ;B[bb]BL[1650]C[ GoAhead NR : hmm, strange wilcox 2d : how would you try to live? GoAhead NR : not at all wilcox 2d : well, that's a different story entirely. GoAhead NR : but B can try the cut wilcox 2d : cut doesnt work without setup help. GoAhead NR : sure, but maybe GoAhead blunders wilcox 2d : yes, but ego can see it doesnt work. ] ;W[dd]WL[1173] ;B[db]BL[1641]C[ GoAhead NR : I think, GoAhaed can read this out now wilcox 2d : almost any move can kill. GoAhead NR : wait, B(b17) is not bad wilcox 2d : didnt say it was. black just cant live in here. ] ;W[eb]WL[1081] ;B[ca]BL[1637] ;W[cc]WL[972]C[ GoAhead NR : L&D calculation ] ;B[cp]BL[1622]C[ wilcox 2d : a16 was best choice to kill. GoAhead NR : GoAhead just calculates, until he has found one way to kill GoAhead NR : therefore almost never the best way wilcox 2d : expected. Same with ego. ] ;W[bp]WL[898] ;B[ad]BL[1620]C[ wilcox 2d : still you have enough safe margin for win. GoAhead NR : what is margin, Bruce? wilcox 2d : point difference between the two players. wilcox 2d : standard phrase might be: margin of error (as in a political poll) wilcox 2d : means how many points wrong the poll might be. wilcox 2d : another word is slack, as in rope slack (leftover rope). GoAhead NR : ok. ] ;W[ac]WL[809] ;B[ae]BL[1616] ;W[bc]WL[732] ;B[fm]BL[1602]C[ GoAhead NR : has entered byo-yomi again GoAhead NR : W+26 wilcox 2d : ego considers your r3 group to have some risk potential. ] ;W[co]WL[2612] ;B[em]BL[1588]C[ GoAhead NR : GoAhead calculated it as alive wilcox 2d : it is, at present. wilcox 2d : how does Goahead reply to t7 black. GoAhead NR : I think, that's whithin his calculation horizon ] ;W[dm]WL[2544] ;B[ah]BL[1573]C[ GoAhead NR : (we must talk a lot due to slow performance ...) GoAhead NR : how does Ego choose Joseki? GoAhead NR : GoAhead: randomly ] ;W[ai]WL[2447] ;B[ag]BL[1569]C[ wilcox 2d : place each initial choice down and evaluate the result. GoAhead NR : whow, that sounds very good GoAhead NR : but so many variations! wilcox 2d : not as good as laying down all sequences and evaluating the family. GoAhead NR : ah, I see - just the first move, right? wilcox 2d : yes. ] ;W[bi]WL[2365] ;B[oe]BL[1553]C[ GoAhead NR : but sometimes, the first move is sacrifice wilcox 2d : so, if I wanted perfection I'd build a 5-dan program. GoAhead NR : ok, surely better as random choice wilcox 2d : it would just take me a while. GoAhead NR : keep on struggeling, Bruce wilcox 2d : me or Ego? GoAhead NR : you, to build a 5d program wilcox 2d : I havent been able to work on program for over a year. Soon, however... ] ;W[od]WL[2288] ;B[pc]BL[1544] ;W[ne]WL[2210] ;B[nf]BL[1535]C[ GoAhead NR : I see bad aji after W(r19) B(s19) p19 n19 ... wilcox 2d : yes. ] ;W[oa]WL[2147] ;B[qa]BL[1526]C[ GoAhead NR : GoAhead also! GoAhead NR : but still ... ] ;W[ma]WL[2085] ;B[gn]BL[1515]C[ GoAhead NR : o15 was a good example of bad order GoAhead NR : it gets closer: W+16 wilcox 2d : not order. Cant do both , should omit o15 in favor of R19 GoAhead NR : I see ] ;W[ff]WL[2001] ;B[cf]BL[1504]C[ wilcox 2d : not a good choice by black. GoAhead NR : shame on Ego for this shape wilcox 2d : all shapes are empty triangles in the area. ] ;W[le]WL[1919]C[ wilcox 2d : there are two areas for endgame traps left. GoAhead NR : tell me ] ;B[hh]BL[1487]C[ wilcox 2d : you play f1. and the lower right corner still is pending. wilcox 2d : I dont expect either to work. ] ;W[ih]WL[1821]C[ GoAhead NR : GoAhead might play f1, but will not connect after g1, I think GoAhead NR : because stones can be caught in a ladder ] ;B[kg]BL[1453]C[ GoAhead NR : what's the other point? (t5?) wilcox 2d : t7 wilcox 2d : t7 by us, t5 by you. GoAhead NR : B(t7) W(s4). ] ;W[kh]WL[1730] ;B[ig]BL[1441]C[ GoAhead NR : oh, fancy - miai wilcox 2d : cute. huh. GoAhead NR : well, all these center moves are rather pointless ] ;W[hg]WL[1626]C[ GoAhead NR : W+17 - what's your score? wilcox 2d : +15 for w, with weak corner. ] ;B[ii]BL[1433]C[ wilcox 2d : they maintain balance, all those moves. GoAhead NR : right. wilcox 2d : besides the only right move is resign. wilcox 2d : but you want to see the two traps resolved. GoAhead NR : sure ] ;W[jg]WL[1548] ;B[ji]BL[1425]C[ wilcox 2d : otherwise I'm happy to resign. GoAhead NR : do what you want wilcox 2d : have you seen enough then? GoAhead NR : I'm pretty sure that GoAhead had read out any possible attack on RL corner wilcox 2d : ok. then so be it. ]; )