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GN[Tristan-GoAhead(B) IGS]RE[B+Resign]
PW[Tristan]WR[2k ]NW[30.0]
PB[GoAhead]BR[NR ]NB[ 0.0]
PC[IGS:  igs.nuri.net 6969]DT[1996-04-07]
SZ[19]TM[60min + 45min/25]KM[5.5]LT[]
C[
 GoAhead NR : Ok, let's have some fun, Tristan ...
]
;B[qc]BL[3558]C[
 GoAhead NR : and please use the say command, so that your comments are on the mailed file, ok?
 Tristan 2k : this is the old version of Gogol, the new one is not ready yet.
]
;W[cc]WL[3541]
;B[cp]BL[3544]C[
 Tristan 2k : do you use cgoban to make your program play ?
 GoAhead NR : is cgoban a client?
]
;W[qq]WL[3499]C[
 Tristan 2k : no a program using the Go protocol to make the programs play on igs
]
;B[np]BL[3530]
;W[nc]WL[3464]C[
 GoAhead NR : that would be nice! - no I have to play the moves by hand
 Tristan 2k : so do I, it takes a lot of time
]
;B[qf]BL[3516]C[
 GoAhead NR : your program knows about joseki, doesn't it?
]
;W[qi]WL[3424]
;B[df]BL[3499]C[
 GoAhead NR : was R11 joseki?
 Tristan 2k : I do not know
 GoAhead NR : you mean, it could be?
]
;W[ci]WL[3375]C[
 Tristan 2k : do you have joseki, Gogol don't
]
;B[ep]BL[3480]C[
 Tristan 2k : I think it is better to stabilize the lower stone
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead knows about 1500 variations, four independent corners
 Tristan 2k : Gogol knows 0 variations
 GoAhead NR : what is your personal strength?
]
;W[kq]WL[3326]C[
 Tristan 2k : 2Kyu, and you ?
]
;B[nn]BL[3463]C[
 GoAhead NR : 7k in Germany
 GoAhead NR : in this case I would be grateful for some go-related comments from you
]
;W[no]WL[3294]C[
 Tristan 2k : there it begins
]
;B[mo]BL[3430]C[
 GoAhead NR : O5 was strange
]
;W[fc]WL[3265]C[
 Tristan 2k : O5 is definitely a bad move
]
;B[ff]BL[3412]C[
 GoAhead NR : E14 now?
]
;W[ef]WL[3233]C[
 GoAhead NR : hmm
 Tristan 2k : You have understood Gogol style it seems !
]
;B[eg]BL[3392]
;W[qn]WL[3210]C[
 GoAhead NR : you have a 19k* in Gogol's stats, is it real?
]
;B[oo]BL[3363]
;W[ic]WL[3182]
;B[ee]BL[3337]C[
 Tristan 2k : another player has stolen the name to me. I did not make Gogol play for a long time and its account was removed
 GoAhead NR : oh, what a strange opening!
]
;W[ql]WL[3152]C[
 GoAhead NR : I think, Gogol's leading
 Tristan 2k : ponnuki = 30 points, you have 2 of them
 GoAhead NR : well, only if one knows how to use thickness
]
;B[ck]BL[3309]C[
 Tristan 2k : did you use one of your 1500 variations yet ?
 GoAhead NR : all of the first 7 moves or so had been joseki moves
]
;W[qp]WL[3123]
;B[iq]BL[3274]C[
 Tristan 2k : it seems GoAhead knows
 GoAhead NR : thank you.
]
;W[qj]WL[3088]
;B[of]BL[3243]C[
 GoAhead NR : you work on a PhD in go programming?
]
;W[pf]WL[3060]C[
 Tristan 2k : yes,
 GoAhead NR : another ponnuki comes ...
]
;B[pg]BL[3221]C[
 Tristan 2k : I am in my third year of PhD on a system learning to play Go
]
;W[ej]WL[3025]C[
 GoAhead NR : oh, I would like to do *such* a PhD
 Tristan 2k : and you, what are you doing ?
]
;B[ek]BL[3199]
;W[di]WL[3000]C[
 GoAhead NR : I am astrophysicist, working on my PhD
]
;B[fk]BL[3172]C[
 Tristan 2k : GoAhead plays stong moves !
 GoAhead NR : thank you
]
;W[jo]WL[2969]C[
 GoAhead NR : left botton "corner" might become very big
]
;B[jp]BL[3144]
;W[dk]WL[2938]C[
 GoAhead NR : Gogol often plays elsewhere
 GoAhead NR : L4 seems to be very important point
 GoAhead NR : but D9 is sente
]
;B[dl]BL[3054]C[
 Tristan 2k : L4 is big, but Gogol does not think so.
]
;W[hn]WL[2899]C[
 GoAhead NR : do you see a chance for you to earn money by go programming in some distant future times?
 GoAhead NR : H6 nicely reduces ...
]
;B[kp]BL[2999]C[
 Tristan 2k : a chance, let say 30 %
 GoAhead NR : tell me more about it, please
]
;W[dp]WL[2858]C[
 Tristan 2k : I may go to the FOST cup if my new version is sufficiently stronger than this one
 GoAhead NR : Gogol seems to feel that he must do something against blacks large mojo?
]
;B[do]BL[2937]C[
 Tristan 2k : he does not see a moyo
]
;W[kc]WL[2822]C[
 Tristan 2k : he sees tobis
 GoAhead NR : pardon, what is 'tobi'?
 Tristan 2k : what is before a ponnuki
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead currently claims a lead of 27 points
 Tristan 2k : Gogol thinks he leads by 17 points !
]
;B[qh]BL[2805]C[
 GoAhead NR : well, might be true - might be wrong
 Tristan 2k : why not another ponnuki ?
 GoAhead NR : well, funny: GoAhead clamis the D4 and Q14 stone as dead!
]
;W[mc]WL[2777]C[
 GoAhead NR : Gogol likes the third line very much
 Tristan 2k : he plays what he nearly understands
 GoAhead NR : funny comment
]
;B[od]BL[2745]
;W[in]WL[2741]C[
 Tristan 2k : he connects everything he finds to connect...
 GoAhead NR : maybe, I should also go to the FOST cup ...
 GoAhead NR : (in order to get a job)
 Tristan 2k : your program has to be at least 10 Kyu to win the cup.
 GoAhead NR : oh, then I should better stay at home
]
;B[oc]BL[2681]C[
 GoAhead NR : well, at least Gogol reduces black's sphere of influence
 Tristan 2k : he plays stones in your territory
]
;W[fn]WL[2706]C[
 GoAhead NR : F6 good move
 Tristan 2k : If you beat ManyFaces, you can win it.
]
;B[gp]BL[2644]C[
 GoAhead NR : last weekend, GoAhead won a 3-stone-handicap match against MF
]
;W[dm]WL[2670]C[
 Tristan 2k : great !
 GoAhead NR : thank's. D7 should have cut instead
 Tristan 2k : cut ?
]
;B[cm]BL[2594]C[
 GoAhead NR : cut at E8
 GoAhead NR : oops.
 Tristan 2k : it does not cut
 GoAhead NR : I see
]
;W[fi]WL[2626]C[
 Tristan 2k : will your ponnuki live ?
 GoAhead NR : don't know, I fear GoAhead doesn't realize the danger
]
;B[dj]BL[2528]C[
 Tristan 2k : GoAhead protects the cut ?
]
;W[hh]WL[2584]C[
 GoAhead NR : very good move!
 Tristan 2k : there is not much real danger, but computer Go is sometime like a dream (or a nightmare)
]
;B[em]BL[2475]C[
 GoAhead NR : ouch.
 GoAhead NR : Gogol could decide the game now?
 Tristan 2k : Gogol likes to give stones if the opponent play 3 moves to take them
]
;W[gh]WL[2539]C[
 GoAhead NR : That's one of GoAheads problems: he likes eating stones
 Tristan 2k : That's one of Gogol problem, it likes to give stones :)
]
;B[cd]BL[2435]
;W[gc]WL[2496]C[
 GoAhead NR : au weia
 GoAhead NR : should have been at D17
]
;B[bc]BL[2385]C[
 GoAhead NR : but GoAhead gives away the chance to play there
]
;W[bg]WL[2456]C[
 GoAhead NR : oh, maybe not!
 Tristan 2k : Gogol likes fights
 GoAhead NR : strange: Gogol seems to like playing between a two space extension at the 3.line, but if it is urgent - then not
]
;B[cb]BL[2311]C[
 GoAhead NR : how about ponnuki now?
]
;W[le]WL[2411]C[
 Tristan 2k : a ponnuki in the corner is less than one in the center
 GoAhead NR : but I would play D17 now, nevertheless
 Tristan 2k : GoAhead likes ponnuki, Gogol likes Tenuki
]
;B[dc]BL[2244]C[
 Tristan 2k : Is your program playing like you or are you playing like your program ?
 GoAhead NR : good question, probably both
 GoAhead NR : now the game begins to show contours: I think black leads
]
;W[pd]WL[2365]C[
 Tristan 2k : How is GoAhead in the final chuban and in the endgame ?
 GoAhead NR : endgame is slow but not bad, what is "chuban"?
]
;B[pe]BL[2180]C[
 Tristan 2k : chuban=midgame
 Tristan 2k : (5+2*1/2) ponnukis!
]
;W[mg]WL[2317]C[
 GoAhead NR : midgame strength depends lot on the type of position
 Tristan 2k : you have strongs groups
 Tristan 2k : I have 2 weak groups
 Tristan 2k : You are ahead
 GoAhead NR : right.
 Tristan 2k : You may win 
]
;B[bf]BL[2107]C[
 GoAhead NR : a move around J9 would put pressure on both week groups
]
;W[mf]WL[2263]C[
 Tristan 2k : h9 to make another ponnuki
 GoAhead NR : connecting a keima apparently is one of Gogols's farourite moves!
 GoAhead NR : how does Gogol judge the score, I have B+39
 Tristan 2k : B +2 says Gogol
]
;B[lq]BL[2028]C[
 GoAhead NR : another slow and thick eating move ...
]
;W[bh]WL[2206]C[
 GoAhead NR : is it possible to make life for white in the lower left corner?
 Tristan 2k : no I do not see how to live in the lower left corner
]
;B[mj]BL[1950]C[
 Tristan 2k : strange move
 GoAhead NR : N10 was a purely influence controlled move. Not so bad I think
]
;W[ok]WL[2156]
;B[jj]BL[1898]C[
 GoAhead NR : white's middle bottom group is in danger to be captured on a large scale
]
;W[ml]WL[2103]C[
 Tristan 2k : firemen, police, help.
 Tristan 2k : my group is in danger, come and rescue it.
 GoAhead NR : don't panic - GoAhead doesn't see large scale attacks
]
;B[hj]BL[1853]C[
 GoAhead NR : you see?
 Tristan 2k : it does not see it, but it smells it.
 Tristan 2k : there was two ways, there is only one left
]
;W[ij]WL[2041]C[
 Tristan 2k : what about a ponnuki ?
 GoAhead NR : yes, ponnuki would be nice!
 Tristan 2k : please do it
]
;B[ik]BL[1808]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol won't do anything against it I think
 GoAhead NR : at least, GoAhead now marks the center lower group with a "?", indicating that its status is unclear
]
;W[ji]WL[1972]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol's hands are shaking maybe 
 GoAhead NR : sorry, please explain ...
 Tristan 2k : He wanted to play j11 but it dropped the stone on k11.
 GoAhead NR : I see
]
;B[kj]BL[1735]C[
 GoAhead NR : ponnuki would have been better
]
;W[lj]WL[1918]C[
 GoAhead NR : well, maybe this time!
 Tristan 2k : sure all the time
 GoAhead NR : now there exists a possibility that GoAhead plays L7
 GoAhead NR : ... in the future
]
;B[li]BL[1652]
;W[gj]WL[1865]C[
 GoAhead NR : now, blacks stones are currently cut, might confuse GoAhead
]
;B[gk]BL[1591]C[
 GoAhead NR : safety first
]
;W[ii]WL[1803]C[
 Tristan 2k : amazing, a ponnuki you won't get !
 GoAhead NR : yes, but now M9 captures and prevents a cut
 Tristan 2k : Does GoAhead sees this ?
]
;B[lk]BL[1513]C[
 GoAhead NR : yes.
 Tristan 2k : good program
 GoAhead NR : white must connect now, or game is almost over
 GoAhead NR : no black weaknesses
 Tristan 2k : game is never finished
]
;W[ob]WL[1728]C[
 GoAhead NR : you never know in computer go
 Tristan 2k : until the end
 GoAhead NR : right.
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead will answer locally ...
]
;B[pb]BL[1456]C[
 GoAhead NR : *can* white connect at all?
]
;W[nb]WL[1673]C[
 GoAhead NR : where would you play as white?
 Tristan 2k : m7
]
;B[oi]BL[1407]C[
 GoAhead NR : and after M7 L7?
]
;W[bj]WL[1598]C[
 Tristan 2k : m7 l7 l6 m6 l8 and push
]
;B[bk]BL[1317]
;W[jl]WL[1540]C[
 Tristan 2k : this is not the sequence it sees
 GoAhead NR : exciting, anyway!
]
;B[jk]BL[1249]C[
 Tristan 2k : safety first ?
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead didn't like the cut
]
;W[im]WL[1476]C[
 GoAhead NR : ouch!
 Tristan 2k : Gogol connects first
 GoAhead NR : another keima connect
 Tristan 2k : but it connects what is already connected
 Tristan 2k : ... this was untrue, it was not connected
]
;B[ll]BL[1170]C[
 GoAhead NR : can't you make him play better by introducing "bad shape" patterns?
 Tristan 2k : It has to discover them alone, that is my philosophy
]
;W[km]WL[1408]C[
 GoAhead NR : interesting. Should be a good strategy in unusual positions - just like in computer go!
 GoAhead NR : actually, many of my shape patterns are punishing values for bad shape
]
;B[lm]BL[1074]C[
 GoAhead NR : maybe, white can live inside
 Tristan 2k : I do not think so
 GoAhead NR : H8 is sente against GoAhead
]
;W[af]WL[1326]C[
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead is only good in killing, if the problem has become so tiny, that he can *read* the life&death
]
;B[fj]BL[997]C[
 GoAhead NR : does Gogol think, that his group is dead, because he played elsewhere?
 Tristan 2k : No, it does not think it is dead, but it plays elsewhere 
 Tristan 2k : Gogol does not read life and death, so GoAhead is better at killing than Gogol at living
 GoAhead NR : but GoAhead doesn't know much about eye shape
 Tristan 2k : Gogol is pretty good at eyes shape, but only shapes it never encounters
]
;W[ea]WL[1214]C[
 Tristan 2k : here is one of the moves it has discovered by its own
 Tristan 2k : quite unusual
 GoAhead NR : E18 was the proper move
 Tristan 2k : H8 is the proper move
 Tristan 2k : (against GoAhead)
]
;B[pp]BL[872]C[
 Tristan 2k : better at P3
 GoAhead NR : oh boy, at least H14 or something but not Q4!
 GoAhead NR : yes, maybe Q3?
]
;W[eb]WL[1145]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol is confident in what he believes
 GoAhead NR : now, Q3 is fairly large
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead claims B+41
]
;B[pq]BL[793]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol B+14
 GoAhead NR : they are playing different games - ignoring each other
 Tristan 2k : GoAhead is near to the game of Go than Gogol
 GoAhead NR : oh, you flatter me too much! But thank you.
 GoAhead NR : I just go for a coffee - I'm back in two minutes ...
]
;W[ca]WL[1076]
;B[ba]BL[709]
;W[da]WL[959]C[
 Tristan 2k : you are welcome
 GoAhead NR : coffee mashine is now doing it's job
 Tristan 2k : 1 point is 1 point
 GoAhead NR : H14 is rather big
]
;B[be]BL[604]C[
 Tristan 2k : I just had a coffee with bruno bouzy, he is the next on the ladder
 GoAhead NR : Are you working together? same place?
 Tristan 2k : same place but different approaches.
]
;W[mh]WL[881]C[
 GoAhead NR : Gogol and Indigo often play against eachother?
 Tristan 2k : two years ago they used to play a game every night.
 Tristan 2k : it is a long time they haven't played together
 GoAhead NR : which results?
 Tristan 2k : varying results
 GoAhead NR : come on, tell me, Tristan!
 Tristan 2k : they are going to play again as I am going to test my new version
 Tristan 2k : coming soon !
]
;B[nl]BL[505]C[
 GoAhead NR : O8 was a lose ladder calculation I guess
 Tristan 2k : Do you have a special algorithm for ladders ?
 Tristan 2k : how many liberties ?
 GoAhead NR : coffee is ready: cheers!
 Tristan 2k : cheers
]
;W[pa]WL[781]C[
 GoAhead NR : oops. I was wrong: can't be lose lad, N8 was connected to P9 before
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead can solve life&death problems for about 10 (freedoms+territory) points by reading (sometimes)
 GoAhead NR : the chances for successful calculation increase with decreasing points
]
;B[qa]BL[416]C[
 Tristan 2k : and shishos ?
 GoAhead NR : ladders exactly
 GoAhead NR : even, if they run zick-zack over the board
]
;W[ak]WL[708]C[
 Tristan 2k : how many liberties for ladders ?
 GoAhead NR : two, of course - pardon?
 Tristan 2k : the white stone in n8 had 3 liberties before you played
 GoAhead NR : yes, that's why I thought it has been a *lose* ladder result
]
;B[al]BL[310]C[
 Tristan 2k : so if Gogol plays in n7, he may rescue its stone ?
]
;W[hl]WL[626]C[
 GoAhead NR : no, this time, the stones would not be connected to anything, and he would try the read the life&death of stones (probably successful)
 GoAhead NR : hey, Gogol DID IT!
 Tristan 2k : but I do not think he knows the following moves
 GoAhead NR : so do I! please tell me!
]
;B[hk]BL[165]C[
 Tristan 2k : now G7 would be possible
 GoAhead NR : Gogol could also make an eye by H4
]
;W[ae]WL[528]C[
 GoAhead NR : gote
 Tristan 2k : he could have, but he did not 
 GoAhead NR : but I don't think that GoAhead will try to kill now, problem is too large for calculation
 GoAhead NR : only by chance
]
;B[ad]BL[58]C[
 GoAhead NR : will Gogol connect?
 Tristan 2k : I think so
]
;W[ag]WL[436]C[
 GoAhead NR : white will live in center, I think
 Tristan 2k : Gogol thinks B+14
 GoAhead NR : in this problem, maybe 'goal related shape pattern' would be useful
 GoAhead NR : goal=diminish white's eye space
 GoAhead NR : is entering byo-yomi
]
;B[hf]BL[2668]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol discovered them but it does not use them
 GoAhead NR : why not? - old version?
 Tristan 2k : Because it is not programmed in a good style
 Tristan 2k : next version will be better
 Tristan 2k : I hope 
]
;W[jf]WL[338]C[
 GoAhead NR : good move, otherwise the other group would have been in danger
]
;B[qr]BL[2573]C[
 Tristan 2k : this is not the reason why he played it
 Tristan 2k : good endgame !
 GoAhead NR : why then?
 Tristan 2k : to make 9 points of terriroty according to what it says
 GoAhead NR : well, probably an underestimation!
 Tristan 2k : probably approximatively correct
]
;W[ge]WL[229]C[
 GoAhead NR : yes, I was joking. If whole white group would die then more points
 Tristan 2k : I understood, I was joking too
 Tristan 2k : PAC is a theory for inductive learning systems
 GoAhead NR : funny, in astrophysics PAC means "polycyclic aromatic carbon" molecules
 GoAhead NR : like C60, you know?
]
;B[gf]BL[2452]
;W[oh]WL[134]
;B[pi]BL[2370]C[
 Tristan 2k : PAC is also Politique Agricole Commune
 GoAhead NR : fine!
 GoAhead NR : puh, GoAhead claims B+48 - this cannot be, I think
 Tristan 2k : Gogol B+30, but it is more than b +48 I think
 GoAhead NR : really? If white lives in the center ...
 Tristan 2k : If white live then maybe b+48
 GoAhead NR : joking again?
 Tristan 2k : no
 GoAhead NR : hmm. Sorry, my fault, I'm only 7k
]
;W[ei]WL[6]C[
 Tristan 2k : at last
 GoAhead NR : was E11 necessary?
 Tristan 2k : not really, but it does not know about Ko
 Tristan 2k : so it was necessary for Gogol
 GoAhead NR : oh, everyone wins every ko against GoAhead
]
;B[mm]BL[2247]C[
 Tristan 2k : maybe they are playing the same game finally
 GoAhead NR : I don't understand B(N7). white stone was declared dead, must be a bug
 Tristan 2k : You also know about this sort of things
 GoAhead NR : a little
 Tristan 2k : I lose a lot of time with bugs
 Tristan 2k : is entering byo-yomi
]
;W[gi]WL[2586]C[
 GoAhead NR : usually, if GoAhead has finished a game and I come home and I have time ...
 GoAhead NR : ... I go over the game once more ...
 GoAhead NR : ... and look at some of GoAhead's biggest mistakes ...
 GoAhead NR : ... and detect at least the same number of bugs!
 Tristan 2k : I try to make Gogol do this automatically, but the metawork
 Tristan 2k : is sometime harder than the work
 GoAhead NR : that sounds interesting. How does it work?
]
;B[rq]BL[2089]C[
 Tristan 2k : he replays its games and tries to find mistakes and to correct
 Tristan 2k : them automatically
 GoAhead NR : whow!
 Tristan 2k : I did not give him the rules he is using
 Tristan 2k : It discovered them alone
 GoAhead NR : that might produce interesting results!
 GoAhead NR : but what is a 'mistake'?
 Tristan 2k : but time lost in recalculating the position
 GoAhead NR : no problem, I could do addtime, if you want me to
]
;W[hp]WL[2270]C[
 GoAhead NR : he DID IT!
 Tristan 2k : as long as GoAhead lets him do it.
 GoAhead NR : trying to kill with J4 would be hard line
 Tristan 2k : H3 is better
 GoAhead NR : after B(H3) J4, white lives unconditionally
]
;B[hq]BL[1965]C[
 Tristan 2k : if W(J4) B(H5)
 GoAhead NR : oops. yes, my fault.
]
;W[go]WL[2200]C[
 Tristan 2k : now W(J4) is ok
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead will do something against white's cut at G3 I think
 GoAhead NR : although it doesn't hurt. F4 is more dangerous
]
;B[fp]BL[1843]C[
 GoAhead NR : safety first
 Tristan 2k : G7 lives
 GoAhead NR : J4 also
 Tristan 2k : it is harder
 GoAhead NR : aha
]
;W[oa]WL[2117]C[
 GoAhead NR : maybe, Gogol thinks, G7 and J4 are miai?!
 Tristan 2k : Gogol does not think a lot you know 
 GoAhead NR : I don't know, but I smell it!
]
;B[nh]BL[1767]C[
 Tristan 2k : what is your last move ?
 GoAhead NR : O12
 GoAhead NR : any problems?
 Tristan 2k : I mean what purpose ?
 GoAhead NR : I fear local shape move
]
;W[ng]WL[1996]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol connects
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead tried to seperate stones
 GoAhead NR : will be gote, because after B(O11) P13 black will prevent cut at Q12
]
;B[ni]BL[1660]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol could disconnect before your move
 GoAhead NR : you mean Q12 now?
 Tristan 2k : no p13 I think
 GoAhead NR : yes, as I guessed
]
;W[og]WL[1899]C[
 GoAhead NR : funny, now the whole white group at the right edge (around R6) is marked with "?"
]
;B[ph]BL[1548]C[
 GoAhead NR : what did I say?
]
;W[qo]WL[1803]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol is feared
 Tristan 2k : lovely Gogol
 GoAhead NR : so, he is also not sure about status of white's right group?
]
;B[or]BL[1442]C[
 Tristan 2k : no, it thinks it is alive
 GoAhead NR : ah damn!, black could have captured in a ladder the whole time! I DON'T UNDERSTAND MY PROGRAM
 Tristan 2k : so don't I whith mine
 Tristan 2k : my hope is that it will understand itself one day
]
;W[rh]WL[1689]C[
 GoAhead NR : now, GoAhead agrees that right group lives
 GoAhead NR : just let him think all through the night. Maybe, he's a dan player tomorrow!
 Tristan 2k : it will need more than one night maybe.
 GoAhead NR : who knows? try it!
]
;B[rg]BL[1330]
;W[ri]WL[1600]C[
 GoAhead NR : Gogol is the first program that can compete with GoAhead's time consumption!
 GoAhead NR : it must become faster to play the FOST cup, doesn't it?
]
;B[pm]BL[1240]C[
 Tristan 2k : Yes but I am running on a faster machine than you, a sparcstation 10
 Tristan 2k : so imagine on your computer
 Tristan 2k : my new version does not read so it is faster
 GoAhead NR : hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 GoAhead NR : which types of problems can be solved by reading currently?
 Tristan 2k : shishos, connecting and life and death maybe
 Tristan 2k : all unimportant problems
 GoAhead NR : no! I would like to do connect reading as well
]
;W[qm]WL[1447]C[
 Tristan 2k : Gogol does connect reading presently
 GoAhead NR : that's why a said "no!"
 Tristan 2k : but it is not so good at that
 GoAhead NR : yes, apparently black was able to connect everywhere and white was cut at least one time
 Tristan 2k : my next version won't do connect reading
]
;B[jn]BL[1152]C[
 Tristan 2k : it will know connections without reading
 GoAhead NR : now the fun has begun
 Tristan 2k : maybe there was a better move to attack
 Tristan 2k : like G7
 GoAhead NR : yes, for sure. In case of too large life&death problems, GoAhead tries to play a "vital point" (but fails here)
]
;W[kn]WL[1317]C[
 Tristan 2k : thank you for the eye
 GoAhead NR : well, B(J5) L7 L5 is no eye
 GoAhead NR : .. or B(J5) L5 G7
]
;B[gm]BL[1043]C[
 Tristan 2k : B(J5) G7
 GoAhead NR : I see.
 GoAhead NR : Gogol must play J4 now ...
]
;W[kr]WL[1195]C[
 GoAhead NR : ouch!
 Tristan 2k : W(j4) h5 j5 g6
 GoAhead NR : I see.
]
;B[lr]BL[904]C[
 GoAhead NR : ... but GoAhead will not see this ...
 Tristan 2k : neither Gogol
 GoAhead NR : therefore J4 lives "technically"
]
;W[jr]WL[1116]C[
 GoAhead NR : now, it's really dangerous
 GoAhead NR : no, GoAhead cannot read out the life&death of the K2-stones, therefore will continue there
]
;B[ir]BL[776]C[
 GoAhead NR : come on, Gogol, play J4
]
;W[aj]WL[1020]C[
 GoAhead NR : sente to GoAhead
 GoAhead NR : at least, K2 stones are declared dead now
 Tristan 2k : Gogol also thinks they are dead
]
;B[bm]BL[663]C[
 GoAhead NR : come on, Gogol ...
 Tristan 2k : it thinks J4 is worth 1 point, so it won't play it
]
;W[ed]WL[909]C[
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead might continue with a "vital point"
]
;B[he]BL[567]
;W[gd]WL[789]C[
 GoAhead NR : not really high-level-go this game ...
 Tristan 2k : not really
 GoAhead NR : sometimes, I'm a little disappointed, because I tried so hard to teach him ...
 Tristan 2k : Gogol thinks b+52 now
 Tristan 2k : with its dead white group alive !
 GoAhead NR : well GoAhead: B+59 - they are going to agree
 GoAhead NR : oh, we forgot komi 5.5!
]
;B[dd]BL[375]C[
 Tristan 2k : is it really important ?
 GoAhead NR : probably not.
 GoAhead NR : S+59 is including komi
 GoAhead NR : D16 so small
]
;W[ne]WL[645]C[
 GoAhead NR : is B(T6) possible?
 Tristan 2k : no, it does not work
 Tristan 2k : ... against me
 GoAhead NR : why?
]
;B[hm]BL[284]C[
 Tristan 2k : BT6 s4 t4 s2 t3 t5 s5 t2 t5 t7
 GoAhead NR : yes, I see, nice sequence
]
;W[cg]WL[459]C[
 GoAhead NR : BT6 T5 S5 S4 T4 S2 T3 ... would be another possiblity
 Tristan 2k : yes but BT6 t5 t4 is sente
 GoAhead NR : whow!
]
;B[il]BL[174]C[
 Tristan 2k : If you kill white, I resign.
 GoAhead NR : (ok.)
 GoAhead NR : I fear we both must do addtime ...
 GoAhead NR : Increase Tristan's time by 10 minutes
 Tristan 2k : Increase GoAhead's time by 10 minutes
]
;W[ie]WL[927]C[
 Tristan 2k : I mean when Gogol will understand he is dead, I resign
]
;B[ec]BL[687]C[
 Tristan 2k : Do you have test files to test GoAhead ?
 GoAhead NR : you mean some test problems? - not really, only self designed
 Tristan 2k : ? self designed ?
 GoAhead NR : well, just a few simple life&death problems ...
 GoAhead NR : could you mail me some?
]
;W[ig]WL[773]C[
 Tristan 2k : I use graded Go problems for begginers but M. Mueller has some on its web site
 GoAhead NR : oh, I will look at that
 Tristan 2k : You can also get the database of Thomas Wolf on life and death
 Tristan 2k : provided you do not give it away
 Tristan 2k : ask him
]
;B[hd]BL[580]C[
 GoAhead NR : Could you supply me with his email-address?
 Tristan 2k : T.Wolf@qmw.ac.uk
 GoAhead NR : thanks
 GoAhead NR : so many work and energy, and then nobody plays J4, terrible!
]
;W[hc]WL[586]C[
 GoAhead NR : has entered byo-yomi again
 Tristan 2k : that is why I want it to program itself
 Tristan 2k : too much work for me
]
;B[id]BL[2616]C[
 GoAhead NR : is there a possibility, that Gogol invades the left lower corner? Maybe he manages to live there.
 Tristan 2k : it thinks the lower left corner is to nobody 
 Tristan 2k : but that playing d3 is only 2 points
 GoAhead NR : so he will try it sometimes, right?
 Tristan 2k : yes, but not soon
 GoAhead NR : normally, I would say that GoAhead will defend properly, but after this game ...
]
;W[fa]WL[466]C[
 GoAhead NR : oh, Gogol needs lots of thinking nights, I think ...
 GoAhead NR : ... to become a dan player
 Tristan 2k : it was necessary, but not yet, and better at f18
]
;B[jd]BL[2525]C[
 GoAhead NR : K16 was necessary
 GoAhead NR : J4 was necessary!
 Tristan 2k : maybe I sould call my program tenuki
 GoAhead NR : (funny)
]
;W[jc]WL[344]
;B[cf]BL[2431]C[
 GoAhead NR : now B(L14), white fails and black kills group because nobody plays A11!
 GoAhead NR : sorry, I was sarcastic ...
 Tristan 2k : well, it could be, but I think it is going to be worse than that
 GoAhead NR : make a proposition!
 Tristan 2k : I am curious about the lower right corner
]
;W[fd]WL[211]C[
 Tristan 2k : maybe, GoAhead can kill all the groups except the upper one
 GoAhead NR : but I don't want to see this. Please not.
]
;B[if]BL[2327]C[
 GoAhead NR : GoAhead claims B+67
 Tristan 2k : Gogol B +66.5
 GoAhead NR : including komi?
 Tristan 2k : yes
 GoAhead NR : so they perfectly agree at least
]
;W[je]WL[91]
;B[kd]BL[2216]C[
 Tristan 2k : has entered byo-yomi again
]
;W[dq]WL[2576]C[
 GoAhead NR : well, let's see what happens here ...
 Tristan 2k : I was ready to resign but let's see what happens
 Tristan 2k : funny same words
 GoAhead NR : yes, funny
 GoAhead NR : C3 is quite obvious
 Tristan 2k : will he play C3 ?
 GoAhead NR : oh damn!, GoAhead consideres D3/D4 group as dead!
 GoAhead NR : another bug, which I must look at
]
;B[fm]BL[2105]C[
 GoAhead NR : easy living now
 Tristan 2k : not for Gogol
 GoAhead NR : maybe you can still win the game!
]
;W[rr]WL[2458]C[
 GoAhead NR : O U C H !
 Tristan 2k : Gogol thinks it takes your stone !!!
 GoAhead NR : well, maybe, he's right!
]
;B[sr]BL[2007]C[
 GoAhead NR : this way, S2 was a good move, making S4 sente
 GoAhead NR : however, S4 was sente anyway
 Tristan 2k : S4 was 'sente' without S2
]
;W[sq]WL[2387]C[
 GoAhead NR : au weia!
 Tristan 2k : I do not believe it
]
;B[rs]BL[1922]C[
 GoAhead NR : what about T4 S4 T5 S5 T6 S6 ... now?
 Tristan 2k : it kills the white group
]
;W[sp]WL[2305]C[
 GoAhead NR : why doesn't Gogol play C3?
 Tristan 2k : it thinks its 2 stones are dead
 GoAhead NR : whow - they agree! and they are wrong!
 Tristan 2k : let's go for it !
]
;B[rp]BL[1791]C[
 Tristan 2k : ok, I resign thank you for the game
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