(; GM[1]US[Brought to you by IGS] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) Tim L. Casey 1994 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[Gogol-Explorer(B) IGS]RE[B+Resign] PW[Gogol]WR[19k ]NW[13.0] PB[Explorer]BR[14k ]NB[18.0] PC[IGS: hellspark.wharton.upenn.edu 6969]DT[1995-01-07] SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[0.500000]LT[] ;B[dp]BL[3569] ;W[qq]WL[3576] ;B[pc]BL[3556] ;W[cc]WL[3562] ;B[gq]BL[3550] ;W[cm]WL[3545] ;B[co]BL[3541] ;W[bn]WL[3529] ;B[mq]BL[3527] ;W[bp]WL[3511] ;B[bo]BL[3520] ;W[cr]WL[3486] ;B[dr]BL[3511]C[ Tristan 3k : It plays on a slower machine than usual Tristan 3k : what about connections ? ] ;W[cq]WL[3445] ;B[dq]BL[3478] ;W[oq]WL[3407] ;B[ap]BL[3449]C[ jm 2k*: It seems aa problem is left in lower left corner. Makes good aji. ] ;W[qf]WL[3367]C[ Tristan 3k : Gogol saw the connection but thinks it is not important, ] ;B[qd]BL[3429] ;W[re]WL[3349] ;B[md]BL[3412]C[ Tristan 3k : Gogol loves this kind of move jm 2k*: That's the second attack on second line. ] ;W[rc]WL[3323]C[ Tristan 3k : it loves the second line ] ;B[rd]BL[3394] ;W[nd]WL[3289] ;B[ne]BL[3368] ;W[nc]WL[3248] ;B[pe]BL[3345] ;W[pf]WL[3203] ;B[mc]BL[3301] ;W[of]WL[3164] ;B[nb]BL[3257] ;W[qh]WL[3119]C[ jm 2k*: small extension. :( ] ;B[mb]BL[3222]C[ jm 2k*: Very *solid* move. :( magnus 1k*: Even shorter extension ... ;-) ] ;W[nr]WL[3081]C[ Tristan 3k : they only see very short extensions jm 2k*: Both programs don't seem very eager to occupy empty borders. ] ;B[sc]BL[3183]C[ Tristan 3k : they only make extensions from existing groups, and not big extensions ! ] ;W[cf]WL[3040]C[ Tristan 3k : computer go is so hard jm 2k*: NP-hard :) cardboard 1k : NP-tricky ] ;B[jp]BL[3146]C[ magnus 1k*: I know... I tried Tristan 3k : at least ! cardboard 1k : is b a human? ] ;W[lq]WL[3001] ;B[lp]BL[3110] ;W[kr]WL[2968] ;B[mr]BL[3052] ;W[mp]WL[2920] ;B[np]BL[2990] ;W[mo]WL[2862] ;B[kq]BL[2912] ;W[ms]WL[2767]C[ cardboard 1k : see if b gets this move ] ;B[lr]BL[2835] ;W[ks]WL[2675] ;B[no]BL[2778]C[ cardboard 1k : good move! magnus 1k*: O3 is better than O5 IMHO ] ;W[jr]WL[2566]C[ cardboard 1k : yes but at least b didn't play m1 ] ;B[mn]BL[2731]C[ jm 2k*: It's quite depressing to see haw the program plays, when you can imagine the quantity of works to attain this level. magnus 1k*: That is of course also a good argument in computer go !... :-) cardboard 1k : bye jm 2k*: did B read the geta ? magnus 1k*: I think N6 is "head of two stones" ] ;W[dn]WL[2471] ;B[lo]BL[2693]C[ pem 15k : So, what was d6? ] ;W[eo]WL[2357]C[ Tristan 3k : influence move ] ;B[id]BL[2658]C[ magnus 1k*: Tristan, what is Gogols best parts? ] ;W[go]WL[2271]C[ Tristan 3k : It has a good tactical module, he sees quite well shishos and connection?deconnections but it has a very bad strategical module, so he does not choose well between the goals ] ;B[ed]BL[2629]C[ magnus 1k*: I made a program that could read out short ladders only. pem 15k : Have you ever played Dragon (pd program for Macintosh)? Tristan 3k : Gogol can see sequences of moves eating stone up to 6 liberties ] ;W[fp]WL[2163] ;B[fq]BL[2601]C[ magnus 1k*: Does G. know about life and death? Tristan 3k : yes but he is very bad at life/death ] ;W[db]WL[2098] ;B[el]BL[2561] ;W[an]WL[1969] ;B[bq]BL[2522]C[ magnus 1k*: Bye, have to go! jm 2k*: bye maguns. ] ;W[hp]WL[1844] ;B[br]BL[2485] ;W[iq]WL[1767] ;B[gl]BL[2465] ;W[gm]WL[1701] ;B[hm]BL[2445] ;W[hn]WL[1634] ;B[fi]BL[2417] ;W[dl]WL[1556] ;B[hl]BL[2390] ;W[ef]WL[1488] ;B[fm]BL[2367] ;W[gn]WL[1325] ;B[ql]BL[2346]C[ pem 15k : What kind of machines are these programs running on? Tristan 3k : Gogol runs on a spacstation 2 ] ;W[en]WL[1234] ;B[oi]BL[2325] ;W[fn]WL[1160] ;B[qo]BL[2302] ;W[rj]WL[1042] ;B[ci]BL[2277] ;W[bh]WL[950] ;B[bi]BL[2225] ;W[ch]WL[861] ;B[bl]BL[2203] ;W[rl]WL[772] ;B[qk]BL[2159] ;W[rp]WL[704] ;B[qj]BL[2136] ;W[oh]WL[606] ;B[ri]BL[2096] ;W[rh]WL[537] ;B[rk]BL[2062] ;W[pi]WL[434] ;B[pj]BL[2029]C[ Explorer 14k : Increase Gogol's time by 5 minutes ] ;W[sh]WL[583] ;B[ni]BL[1997] ;W[nh]WL[507] ;B[mi]BL[1973] ;W[mh]WL[460] ;B[dk]BL[1949] ;W[qi]WL[355] ;B[sj]BL[1912] ;W[mf]WL[110] ;B[ck]BL[1882] ;W[le]WL[32] ;B[nf]BL[1859] ;W[je]WL[3515] ;B[jd]BL[1835] ;W[kd]WL[3462] ;B[cd]BL[1811] ;W[be]WL[3391] ;B[bd]BL[1775] ;W[fe]WL[3338] ;B[de]BL[1736] ;W[df]WL[3278] ;B[fd]BL[1698] ;W[ae]WL[3222] ;B[ad]BL[1658] ;W[ee]WL[3512] ;B[gd]BL[1615] ;W[ge]WL[3464] ;B[ie]BL[1587] ;W[hf]WL[3412] ;B[jf]BL[1557] ;W[ig]WL[3350] ;B[kh]BL[1531] ;W[eh]WL[3276] ;B[di]BL[1504] ;W[fh]WL[3205] ;B[dh]BL[1453] ;W[ei]WL[3141] ;B[ej]BL[1416] ;W[gi]WL[3068] ;B[fj]BL[1383] ;W[kc]WL[3002] ;B[kb]BL[1353] ;W[kf]WL[2929] ;B[if]BL[1320] ;W[se]WL[2815] ;B[jg]BL[1280] ;W[sd]WL[2551] ;B[mg]BL[1243] ;W[he]WL[2456] ;B[lg]BL[1137] ;W[hd]WL[2348] ;B[jc]BL[1064] ;W[ce]WL[2227] ;B[dd]BL[995] ;W[hc]WL[2144] ;B[ih]BL[934] ;W[fb]WL[2069] ;B[hg]BL[705] ;W[rn]WL[1930] ;B[qn]BL[583] ;W[qb]WL[3184] ;B[gh]BL[395] ;W[hj]WL[3070] ;B[ij]BL[221] ;W[gg]WL[2985] ;B[hh]BL[3574] ;W[rm]WL[2875] ;B[fg]BL[3388] ;W[eg]WL[2732] ;B[gf]BL[3212] ;W[hr]WL[2612] ;B[pb]BL[3015] ;W[ib]WL[2516] ;B[ro]BL[2883] ;W[so]WL[2385] ;B[kl]BL[2778] ;W[km]WL[2217] ;B[lm]BL[2644] ;W[ke]WL[2114] ;B[kn]BL[2540] ;W[jb]WL[2003] ;B[jh]BL[2403] ;W[lb]WL[1846] ;B[ng]BL[2288] ;W[fs]WL[1734] ;B[qa]BL[2176] ;W[io]WL[1637] ;B[lh]BL[2073] ;W[bc]WL[1459] ;B[jm]BL[1989] ;W[la]WL[1307] ;B[qc]BL[1862] ;W[sb]WL[1219] ;B[rb]BL[1782] ;W[oe]WL[1150] ;B[sc]BL[1694] ;W[od]WL[992] ;B[rc]BL[1617] ;W[og]WL[910] ;B[cs]BL[1565] ;W[oc]WL[707] ;B[ah]BL[1510] ;W[ob]WL[574] ;B[bg]BL[1445] ;W[oa]WL[440] ;B[me]BL[1389] ;W[qe]WL[283] ;B[cg]BL[1328] ;W[pd]WL[3447] ;B[es]BL[1281] ;W[pa]WL[3345] ;B[fr]BL[1169] ;W[gs]WL[3207] ;B[pp]BL[3518] ;W[pq]WL[3091] ;B[jo]BL[3418] ;W[ac]WL[2988] ;B[in]BL[3340] ;W[al]WL[2836] ;B[ak]BL[3259] ;W[am]WL[2762] ;B[lk]BL[3173] ;W[lf]WL[2627] ;B[af]BL[3080] ;W[qm]WL[2389] ;B[pm]BL[2953] ;W[op]WL[2247] ;B[oo]BL[2820] ;W[ls]WL[2116] ;B[ma]BL[2708] ;W[ep]WL[1879] ;B[er]BL[2555] ;W[em]WL[1747] ;B[fl]BL[2453] ;W[hk]WL[1596] ;B[ik]BL[2350] ;W[si]WL[1463] ;B[rj]BL[2259] ;W[rg]WL[1317] ;B[ip]BL[2183] ;W[ho]WL[1092] ;B[hq]BL[2098] ;W[lc]WL[825] ;B[bf]BL[2025] ;W[gr]WL[533] ;B[nq]BL[1932] ;W[eq]WL[288] ;B[jq]BL[1648] ;W[ir]WL[17]; )